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Movie Posters => General Discussion => Topic started by: eatbrie on August 20, 2010, 10:40:35 PM
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It's a very serious question.
Aside from Holiday and Jeannie (and a couple others), this forum is 99% made of dudes. Why is that? Are they that much smarter than us, are we that vain?
What is the truth behind women and collecting?
T
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Contrary to just about everything else in their makeup, perhaps they are more rational and practical when it comes to spending hard earned $$$ on pieces of paper ;)
In seriousness though, on NSFGE there are approx 4 semi-regular female posters...
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Well, my girlfriend comes with me to any of the film fairs, but she collects Postcards. A friend of mine's Wife collects Belgian posters. It seems that women like small things??
Maybe it's down to the primitive "Hunter, Gatherer" in men, only now we hunt, and gather Posters!
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Contrary to just about everything else in their makeup, perhaps they are more rational and practical when it comes to spending hard earned $$$ on pieces of paper ;)
Surely you jest. They just spend it on other stuff.
Many moons ago my former (natural brunette) girlfriend spent at least $150 a week at the hair salon to keep her hair looking naturally blonde and at the tanning salon, which kept her skin oompa-loompa orange.
My sister had several closets full of clothes that she never wore. Eventually she moved to London and gave away 90% of her stuff.
But women do collect "stuff." A secretary in 2000 at my old firm OBSESSIVELY collected "Beanie Babies." She was on Ebay all day long buying them. (Now I know the feeling!) Actually, the Wikipedia article (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_Baby) on that fad is worth reading: "In the hysteria of the late 90s, the bears were perceived to be the most sought-after beanies, and often carried inflated price tags - however, many of the popular bears have since turned out to be fairly common."
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It seems that women like small things??
Well, on the subject of posters... You could be on to something... My g/f lothes all my posters.... That was until a week ago when she saw her first Mexican lobby card ($5), and she said, "oh, that one is ok..." WTF?!!! Aaaargh!
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Contrary to just about everything else in their makeup, perhaps they are more rational and practical when it comes to spending hard earned $$$ on pieces of paper ;)
Yeah they are more practical about spending money. Two closets full of shoes they can't possibly wear in a year. Outfits that once they've worn them once, maybe twice, are out of style after that. Make-up products galore, fine china that never gets used because it's too precious, house decor for each season and so on and so on.
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My gf didnt like the idea at first but as the posters started rolling in she began slowly changing her mind...She has now seen the light and is sharing in the fun. She gets excited when a package arrives and wants to see what "we" got. I dont get that "we" but its cool.
What is not as cool though is that she now also wants to see what Im looking at, watching or bidding on before I get it....Example from a couple of weeks ago " I dont like that one" blahblah.."Whats not to like? Its Gilda and dont worry. See the price. We aint getting it!" :P ... laugh1
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Well, on the subject of posters... You could be on to something... My g/f lothes all my posters.... That was until a week ago when she saw her first Mexican lobby card ($5), and she said, "oh, that one is ok..." WTF?!!! Aaaargh!
Have fun collecting those mexican lobbies! ;D
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Its Gilda and dont worry. See the price. We aint getting it!" :P ... laugh1
You should have asked for an early Christmas present from her - you know early as in encompassing EVERY Christmas from 2010-2075!
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Great topic, Thierry! I think most women appreciate the classy French/International design style posters, but not so much the typical guy stuff that fuels the hobby--Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek, etc.
But also, I think women are happy to buy just one poster. They don't have that insatiable need like most collectors! That said, I think this could be the way to expand the hobby, by somehow broadening the net and appealing more to women and fashion/art/design fans.
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Certainly there are less female collectors BUT some of the womenly collections I have had the pleasure of browsing put anything us inept males could amass to shame!
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Men seem to collect nerdier stuff than women, but women are collectors too.
My wife collects handbags. Mainly Luis Vuitton, Chanel, Mulberry, Chloe and Coach. She also collects shoes, jewellery etc. She spends longer than I do online looking for posters, on sites like ASOS, Net-a-porter etc. She wouldn't call herself a collector but it is exactly the same impulse as we poster collectors.
One thing I would say about my poster collecting is that I do so to acquire assets, as well as for the pleasure I get from them being a huge film fan. I would never buy a poster beyond its market value and if I sell my aim is always to make a profit.
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The male to female ratio for the forum has fallen to 10:1,why dont we do one of those semi nude calenders that seem to be everywhere..the more discerning members of the opposite sex will surely crash the server trying to sign up... T should be Mr February.... :D
Stew
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How's this, Stew? Click on it...it's animated....
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Ted, you better delete that "naked men" search from your history before the missus sees it.
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How's this, Stew? Click on it...it's animated....
Ted are you second from left or third ?.. i need my glasses.
Stew
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They all seem to have small, er..............Hands.
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Ted, you better delete that "naked men" search from your history before the missus sees it.
Good thinking, man!
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Hmmm - an old topic. Turns out the male-female ratio on Wikipedia is 85-15 too (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html).
"Jane Margolis, co-author of a book on sexism in computer science, “Unlocking the Clubhouse,” argues that Wikipedia is experiencing the same problems of the offline world, where women are less willing to assert their opinions in public."
Maybe time to start posting on the doll forums (http://www.dollchat.com/openforums.php)....
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It is not true that women don't collect, as a decent percentage of our regular buyers are female.
But they don't post on forums, with a very few exceptions.
Bruce
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Im not sure if there is such a forum out there,but going by my beloved...my advice start a Shoe discussion forum..your server may experience melt down :)
Stew
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The biggest poster buyer of the last 3-4 years has been a woman, so they are definitely out there.
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The biggest poster buyer of the last 3-4 years has been a woman, so they are definitely out there.
The Queen of England? Beyonce (somebody told me she spend $20,000 at an NYC poster shop)? Lindsay Lohan?
You guys are such teases.
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Amy Whinehouse has the market cornerd in these parts.. :(
Stew
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I do know of a Lady dealer in the london area. She is more into advertising posters, but dabbles with the odd film poster.
On the whole I personally know more Female collectors, but they collect nick-nacks, Dolls, pottery, wade figures, , and compliments. ;)
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The Queen of England? Beyonce (somebody told me she spend $20,000 at an NYC poster shop)? Lindsay Lohan?
You guys are such teases.
I am not sure why this is a tease.
The question was "why don't women collect posters?", my observations are similar to Bruce's - not only do women collect posters, but the single biggest buyer in the hobby the past several years has been a women.
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I'm guessing most of you didn't know who was behind "bidder #2"
that said, I think it's just a matter of women overall having less interest in hobbies that men are more interested in. Similarly, though one donkey on the Jerry Springer Show was an ass who collected Beanie Babies, much to his wifes chagrin (because he liked to have the bed full of Beanies when they slept or especially when they had sex (man that is ferkin weird)), I doubt Beanie Babies were ever widely collected amongst men.
I suggest the percentile of men-women ratio in poster or comic collecting is similar to the users of Wikipedia.
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I should also add.. my ex-wife was always more interested in buying a new couch, kitchenware, curtains or shoes than she ever was in seeing me spend money of collectible shyte
whilst most guys I know could care less if they were sitting on a couch or a milk crate while watching a football game
to each his own
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I suggest the percentile of men-women ratio in poster or comic collecting is similar to the users of Wikipedia.
Pretty much spot on. Ironically, one the best collections of DC comics belongs to a woman. Go figure
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one of my best customers at markets in Sydney was a young girl, about 15 years old, and loved GEORGE SANDERS, I also have a local client now who collects Lugosi stuff, she isnt rich, so nothing special, but she does buy.
But collecting anything as in collecting, not BUYING is usually a male domain.
Saying that the ALBANY COLLECTORS CLUB I joined is mainly female, little old ladies who collect fine china or spoons or whatever.
My mother isnt a collector, but is a hoarder.
They are there, but usually not as OCD as us fellas get.
And yes NS4 has a few, and all loverly ladies they are.
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Pretty much spot on. Ironically, one the best collections of DC comics belongs to a woman. Go figure
Christine always was a very nice gal.. more power to her
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And yes NS4 has a few, and all loverly ladies they are.
And how!
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BTW Sean and Rich, I do know the lady of whom you speak. None of my business to out her, never dealt with her (my crappy Exploitation doesn't make the grade).
Good luck to her, I still can't figure what the deal was/motive. I have a hard time to believe it was a personal desire to own this stuff, but I may be very wrong. If it was an investment, then I'd say she probably had bad advise. But ahh well, I am poor and she aint, so who am I to judge (jealous though)
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No fair, now it *is* a tease. I have no idear who Bidder #2 is/was. For the love of Dog, will somebody pm me or something? I gots to know.
--Peter
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its NOT important, someone who means nothing to you and I. Dont worry, Lets say if its Paris Hilton, or whatever, who cares? lets says family $ a nobody EXCEPT they have too much $ to spare.
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its NOT important, someone who means nothing to you and I. Dont worry, Lets say if its Paris Hilton, or whatever, who cares? lets says family $ a nobody EXCEPT they have too much $ to spare.
thumbup spot on Ari.
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Sigh. Alas, I'll never be one of the cool kids.
--Peter
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Sigh. Alas, I'll never be one of the cool kids.
--Peter
If I told you the name was Jane Smith would you feel better?
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Sigh. Alas, I'll never be one of the cool kids.
--Peter
Peter, you already ARE one of the cool kids! thumbup
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If I told you the name was Jane Smith would you feel better?
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her name is Jane Smith
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Sherry Goldberg runs Femmes, Fatales, and Fantasies (http://www.fffmovieposters.com/index.php) and has posted her story on her dealer website (typical high retail prices unfortunately):
Femmes Fatales and Fantasies was the result of one little girl's love affair with the 23 year old Elizabeth Taylor. The Last Time I Saw Paris was my first Elizabeth Taylor movie and it was one that I never forgot. She became "my first favorite". Each week, I got my 25¢ allowance and rushed down to the candy store to get a movie magazine with Elizabeth Taylor on the cover. When the Elizabeth Taylor, Debbie Reynolds, and Eddie Fisher scandal broke, Elizabeth was on the cover of every magazine. There weren't enough quarters in the world for me. I didn't know it then, but that is when I became a collector of movie memorabilia.
When I reached puberty, I discovered Errol Flynn. Although Errol had passed into the next world before I reached that magical hormonal age, it did not lessen his impact for me on the screen. I learned that once you became a fan, you stayed a fan and the memories of those feelings would become a permanent part of you. My life changed when I first saw Captain Blood and Robin Hood, and now 50 years later, I can still remember it as if it were yesterday.
Movie posters are the lure. They are the bait with which the studios, producers and directors reel us into the theater. They have been the gateway to some of the greatest films in history. Movies are a pictorial history of our collective consciousness. They reflect the times in which we have lived and what is going on in the world. They also teach us a great deal about the past. In school, we have our history books but the movies bring history to life....
The love affair that began with a little girl's infatuation with Elizabeth Taylor grew into that little girl becoming a collector. Many of the items that I collected as a child have become quite valuable today. So if your little one wants to collect anything, consider the possibility that in 30 or 40 years time, that item may become more valuable or even priceless.
I married my husband Mark, in 1969. Over the years, he grew to share my passion for movies and posters. This is how Femmes Fatales and Fantasies was born.
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I would suggest that women (as a rule) don't become collectors until they are in their 30s, this is for obvious such as raising the family etc reasons. By the time they are in their 30s it is possible her husband has been collecting for a while and although she probably enjoys the art of the movie poster joining her husband is unlikely to give her that sense of independence she is perhaps looking for.
So if collecting is in her genes she may simply turn to something else, and often look for kindred spirits such as other woman to 'join' because the social interaction is as much part of what she looks for as the collecting.
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261 members,Male to female ratio 23:1..thats nearly twelve real females here...I think were lucky,,we must be kinda hot or something.
Stew
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I think some do.........
"Step right up ladies, step right up."
;D ;D
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OMG..OMG, OMG, OMG i collect posters... oh
I am a DUDE!!!
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How's this, Stew? Click on it...it's animated....
No idea why you guys dont have more girly-friends on this forum. Such a good looking bunch!!
And yes, women do collect posters, but I guess we go about it differently :-* ....
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How's this, Stew? Click on it...it's animated....
I am really concerned the image has been clicked 20 times so far. Unless it was all Rosa
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Female herald collectors..??
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They look more like snipe gals to me..
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poor pot plant
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but mighty healthy leaves.
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Off Topic kinda...
Unity!
"we will find the Loch Ness monster and we will _____ _____ ______!"
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I should also add.. my ex-wife was always more interested in buying a new couch, kitchenware, curtains or shoes than she ever was in seeing me spend money of collectible shyte
whilst most guys I know could care less if they were sitting on a couch or a milk crate while watching a football game
to each his own
Perhaps this is why she gave u the ass and divorced u..
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If women liked/collected movie posters then they would all be in here and we wouldn't...
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But women do like and collect movie posters.
My theory is that they don't always join the forums. That said, when I've been to poster fairs, etc., most - but not all - stalls seem to be run by the male of the species.
It's a puzzle.
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if the poster hobby takes the same course as the comic book hobby, more women will be here soon.
from 1968 to 1990 or so, women were a considerable minority at conventions.
However during the 1990's a population change happened at these shows, in part because while 40 years ago, it was unwise to tell a date you sold comics & movie posters, now they think it is seriously cool - as long as you aren't wearing the same t-shirt you have been for the recent calendar year and you shower occasionally.
Girls today are every bit as freaky as boys have been forever, so when you go to a comic book convention today, while girls/women are still a minority, you see them everywhere. It's heaven, especially as so many are wearing those Red Sonja & Wonder Woman costumes
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Love the updated avatar Lyn. A reminder for some to be on their bestest behaviour...
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Never thought it had to do with being freaky but with women's overall situation in society. Most are these days financially independent to buy and collect all sort of things, husbands and posters.
And, I think that the film industry has always attracted the female population. It is easy for women to get into this hobby and spend good money.
Trust me. I will happily pay a million for my all time favourite Bogart. You can keep the shoes and handbags.
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But women do like and collect movie posters.
My theory is that they don't always join the forums. That said, when I've been to poster fairs, etc., most - but not all - stalls seem to be run by the male of the species.
It's a puzzle.
Not so much a puzzle; just most women have the right idea and are better at it than us men.
In my experience, most women stay well away from these poster forums etc.
One of the biggest collectors I know is a woman and she won't go near online forums for various reasons.
So there you go, Rosa, girl power thumbup
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Love the updated avatar Lyn. A reminder for some to be on their bestest behaviour...
Thank you, the pic is of my lovely gentle giant dog, she's a laydee too :-)
Oh yes, bestest behaviour can only be a good thing on a forum. I'm being good too. Was tempted to comment on some of the previous posts (the 'Loch Ness' one, for example, which I didn't understand) but decided against it. Each to his own.
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Be mean to me if you like. :)
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(the 'Loch Ness' one, for example, which I didn't understand)
I don't get it either. About once a month Zorba forgets to take his pills
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I don't get it either. About once a month Zorba forgets to take his pills
or maybe takes too many. ;D
I did I say it was off topic. 8)
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Be mean to me if you like. :)
Does this apply only to the ladies?
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It would be interesting to know from dealers (Rich? Bruce?) if their customer base is all male or largely male coz I do think that this is a very good question...
:)
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It would be interesting to know from dealers (Rich? Bruce?) if their customer base is all male or largely male coz I do think that this is a very good question...
:)
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Even a (rough) percentage breakdown would be an interesting number to see.
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Hello out there.......... 8)
I wonder what happened to lynbabs, GemGem, Juli and ladeda?
All on a relaxing hiatus, perhaps?
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Even a (rough) percentage breakdown would be an interesting number to see.
It would be!
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Hello out there.......... 8)
I wonder what happened to lynbabs, GemGem, Juli and ladeda?
All on a relaxing hiatus, perhaps?
They got rid of all the trouble makers and now can go back into their holes... Classic woman move - to try to fix things they think can be fixed and move on. Once there is nothing to be fixed - boring!
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Looks like lynbabs was around and about the 'hood in earlier April, so all seems good there. :D
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They got rid of all the trouble makers and now can go back into their holes... Classic woman move - to try to fix things they think can be fixed and move on. Once there is nothing to be fixed - boring!
Tsk. I'm still around, just been very busy with real life recently. :)
I certainly don't live in a 'hole' and will resist posting my views on Charlie's comment.
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They got rid of all the trouble makers and now can go back into their holes... Classic woman move - to try to fix things they think can be fixed and move on. Once there is nothing to be fixed - boring!
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Girl power to you fine ladies.
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They got rid of all the trouble makers and now can go back into their holes... Classic woman move - to try to fix things they think can be fixed and move on. Once there is nothing to be fixed - boring!
I'd suggest becoming gay Charlie.
Or perhaps celibate , most gay men I know have nothing but respect for women.
But if you choose the former, head over to NSF in your thread where there's some nice images for your pleasure.
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+1 Ari..that NSF thread is Shakespearean.
Pure gold ;D
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+1 Ari..that NSF thread is Shakespearean.
Pure gold ;D
NS4 is full of thespians!
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;D
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NS4 is full of thespians!
We don't discriminate. Even actors are allowed.
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I'd suggest becoming gay Charlie.
Or perhaps celibate , most gay men I know have nothing but respect for women.
But if you choose the former, head over to NSF in your thread where there's some nice images for your pleasure.
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Tsk. I'm still around, just been very busy with real life recently. :)
I certainly don't live in a 'hole' and will resist posting my views on Charlie's comment.
I'd suggest becoming gay Charlie.
Or perhaps celibate , most gay men I know have nothing but respect for women.
But if you choose the former, head over to NSF in your thread where there's some nice images for your pleasure.
Why so serious? You gals need to toughen your skin a bit... It's a sad world when a bit of instigative play is harped on like a mortal sin.
Respect has nothing to do with it... It was just a wink! Fuck... hitself
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Not so much a puzzle; just most women have the right idea and are better at it than us men.
In my experience, most women stay well away from these poster forums etc.
One of the biggest collectors I know is a woman and she won't go near online forums for various reasons.
So there you go, Rosa, girl power thumbup
In my very limited experience, aside from "girly" collectables such as handbags, shoes and twee china nick-nacks, the majority of collectors that I've encountered have been male. It might be something to do with the so-called "male brain" or the fact that conditions like autism, with its emphasis on order and so forth, tend to be more prevalent in men, but that's speculation.
Also, as a lady, I've been put off forums and fairs for the simple reason that these tend to be very male-dominated spaces. When I was working in another collecting-based industry as a specialist, people often thought that I was there as the wife of one of the specialists or as a secretary, so they'd talk down to me as though I knew nothing, which can be quite discouraging. The result is that male-spaces become even more male over time, and then all the men stand around wondering why there aren't any women!
Gents, please remember that if a woman seems sensitive or quick to anger, it's probably because you're the 1000th instance of light misogyny that she's had to deal with today and she may have reached her tipping point. The straw that broke the feminist's back, if you will.
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Could it also be that, like any hobby, some are more male oriented and others more female?
It might sound like I am oversimplifying it, but perhaps the poster collecting hobby is one that a much higher % of guys are drawn to? And it isn't a good or bad thing -- it just is what it is, and how the demographic numbers fall?
Just me 2¢ thought. ;)
A better title for this thread might be: "Why Dont More Women Collect Posters?"
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Yeah, I agree. I have several movie posters in my office and the men who stop by my office are much more interested. Yesterday a new attorney (male) came by and said "oh cool, you've got all my favorite movies up!" The women mostly exude a "meh" attitude. But some show some appreciation. A female client said "yeah, my brother loves 'Dune'" after checking out my sci-fi posters currently up.
But virtually everybody thinks about the movies when they see my posters. I see them as independent works of art.
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Yeah, I agree. I have several movie posters in my office and the men who stop by my office are much more interested. Yesterday a new attorney (male) came by and said "oh cool, you've got all my favorite movies up!" The women mostly exude a "meh" attitude. But some show some appreciation. A female client said "yeah, my brother loves 'Dune'" after checking out my sci-fi posters currently up.
But virtually everybody thinks about the movies when they see my posters. I see them as independent works of art.
And when viewed that way, that might broaden the collecting demographic, as so many posters have that artistic appeal and allure to both men and women.
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In my very limited experience, aside from "girly" collectables such as handbags, shoes and twee china nick-nacks, the majority of collectors that I've encountered have been male. I
Pretty cool tumblr ya got there Lost Silents:
http://lostsilentfilms.tumblr.com/
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Yeah, I agree. I have several movie posters in my office and the men who stop by my office are much more interested. Yesterday a new attorney (male) came by and said "oh cool, you've got all my favorite movies up!" The women mostly exude a "meh" attitude. But some show some appreciation. A female client said "yeah, my brother loves 'Dune'" after checking out my sci-fi posters currently up.
But virtually everybody thinks about the movies when they see my posters. I see them as independent works of art.
That, or the posters that you are hanging up appeal more strongly to the male demographic than female...
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Kelly Bundy : "Today I become a lesbian !"
Peg : "That's *thespian* , honey"
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That, or the posters that you are hanging up appeal more strongly to the male demographic than female...
Archie is probably right. If you get that reaction it is more likely to be about the ones you have in your walls, rather than about posters per se. I think you might have a different reaction from the ladies if you swap what you have for these: Third Key, Motor madness, Tobor, Modern girls, Rocky, the candidate and Hustler (or any other Paul Newman). Those will work with any women.
You can thank me later ;)
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Archie is probably right. If you get that reaction it is more likely to be about the ones you have in your walls, rather than about posters per se. I think you might have a different reaction from the ladies if you swap what you have for these: Third Key, Motor madness, Tobor, Modern girls, Rocky, the candidate and Hustler (or any other Paul Newman). Those will work with any women.
You can thank me later ;)
Not trying to "work with" anyone. All of my female clients are 55-65 high-level managers not far from retirement. (And BTW retirement for anyone who joined the government before 1982 is ridiculously sweet.)
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Pretty cool tumblr ya got there Lost Silents:
http://lostsilentfilms.tumblr.com/
Thanks Mel! It's my collecting interest too, but it's nice to curate pretty things that I can't afford.
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Tobor... You quite surprised me there Rosa... ;)
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Not trying to "work with" anyone. All of my female clients are 55-65 high-level managers not far from retirement. (And BTW retirement for anyone who joined the government before 1982 is ridiculously sweet.)
Never suggested you were Mel, simply pointing to some of your posters that might have a greater appeal to female viewers.
Incidentally, your website is not very ''mobile'' friendly :)
Tobor... You quite surprised me there Rosa... ;)
hehehe v glad I've achieved something today Mr Waines :)
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Thanks Mel! It's my collecting interest too, but it's nice to curate pretty things that I can't afford.
I have to agree here, too, Julia. You have a great Tumblr page with not only beautiful still images, but many of the small gif/clips you have throughout, are fantastic, as well. clap
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Congratulations on that blog of yours 'Lost Silents'. Wonderfully easy to get drawn into - and I did!
As for women and specifically poster collecting, I wouldn't know as I'm rather more of a generalist myself. However, all the years I've spent perusing salerooms would point to there being a hefty preponderance of men in most collecting fields. Perhaps women are more selective in what they choose to collect and how much they amass, whereas men are more inclined to become competitively obsessive? Or perhaps there are simply thousands of men still living with their mothers who have shedloads of disposable income?
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Congratulations on that blog of yours 'Lost Silents'. Wonderfully easy to get drawn into - and I did!
As for women and specifically poster collecting, I wouldn't know as I'm rather more of a generalist myself. However, all the years I've spent perusing salerooms would point to there being a hefty preponderance of men in most collecting fields. Perhaps women are more selective in what they choose to collect and how much they amass, whereas men are more inclined to become competitively obsessive? Or perhaps there are simply thousands of men still living with their mothers who have shedloads of disposable income?
Brilliant hypothesis, monocle. ;D
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It's no uncommon that men live with their mothers in Italy.......also some might not afford to live alone but people are very judgemental.
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Women are smarter.
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Men are weak
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That Belafonte song is jammin!
Added to our 60s Christmas party playlist.
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Belafonte at Carnegie Hall is one of the great albums.
Any 60s party should have some Ken Nordine...
http://www.youtube.com/v/HLRIS1NvU4k
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Just found this thread and want to add my thoughts.
I collect posters first and foremost because I am a film addict. Always have been, always will. Film is my life and have amassed a huge DVD/Bluray collection too (is this considered 'a male past-time' too???)
Secondly, I studied graphic design and art history so the two fuses very well.
It's true that I only seem to collect what you guys may consider more 'feminine' - french nouvelle vague, artwork over photos etc... but that's not always the case as I also have Brazil and Blade Runner because they are my favourite films.
I started out just collecting loads of cheap posters, like most of you did, but I've now become very selective and have decided to only buy one or two 'good' posters a year because I just don't want to own loads of posters. Maybe that's the difference. Women are more selective? But it's true, I do get weird reactions when I tell people i collect film posters but more due the fact that they cost a lot rather than being a woman.
My boyfriend likes my passion for posters but he doesn't understand why I collect them (though Brazil is his favourite film so loves my Quad and wants that hung as soon as i move in!) however he doesn't want many to be framed so my collecting has to be limited now.
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True Story –
A friend came over to visit and a conversation went like this.
''I always knew your place will look like this Rosa''
''What do you mean'' said I
''You were born to collect film posters girl''
''Was I?''
''Yeah. you remember, when you made me queue up for over 4 hours to get you that stupid Valentino poster….just outside the old cinema'' ‘’It was raining like cats and dogs’’
''It wasn’t a poster, it was print''
''A what?''
''A print''
''Do you still have it?’’ that poster''
''No, sorry"
''Why not?’’
"It was a print’’
"A what?’’
''Never mind, leave it’’
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The evolution of a collector!
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A print and Rosa do not mix. nono
Someone once said to me:
"If you want perfect, go buy a PRINT!"
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A print and Rosa do not mix. nono
Someone once said to me:
"If you want perfect, go buy a PRINT!"
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he he he...very wise owl ;)
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A print and Rosa do not mix. nono
Someone once said to me:
"If you want perfect, go buy a PRINT!"
;D
Ha, I had this same discussion with my sister. She found out (aka asked) how much I had spent on some of my posters, and she was like, "Ummmm you can get the same image on ebay for like 10 bucks!?!?!" I tried to explain to her about how that's not the point, it's about owning something from when the film was released and the history of the piece, and how it adds infinitely to the specialness of the image...She didn't get it. Oh well, the hobby isn't for everyone. Thank god.
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Ha, I had this same discussion with my sister. She found out (aka asked) how much I had spent on some of my posters, and she was like, "Ummmm you can get the same image on ebay for like 10 bucks!?!?!" I tried to explain to her about how that's not the point, it's about owning something from when the film was released and the history of the piece, and how it adds infinitely to the specialness of the image...She didn't get it. Oh well, the hobby isn't for everyone. Thank god.
I think if many that we all know, male or female, knew what is spent on pieces of printed paper, many would all faint2.gif or crying or look like mesmrized.
Its like any hobby.. those that arent in or "into" it will shrug and may look dumbfounded. And, as you said, Brian, it isn't for everyone.... thank god.
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Yes, it is a funny hobby... Not just about money spent.. but also time spent..researching, bidding, biting nails, manicures -did I mention biting nails.. flopping bidding ;D)
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Yes, it is a funny hobby... Not just about money spent.. but also time spent..researching, bidding, biting nails, manicures -did I mention biting nails.. flopping bidding ;D)
Don't forget the pedi, too.
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Oh well, the hobby isn't for everyone. Thank god.
Hey, I actually want the whole world to suddenly get into poster collecting.
...on the day I'm ready to liquidate :)
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Now that's wise man talking ;)
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Don't forget the pedi, too.
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Salute my great-great grand mother! :P
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q737/Hope_Emerson/lf-10_zpsiv0ogz06.jpeg)
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^ haha, another lady who has fallen for a handsome man on a poster and must get her hands all over it. thumbsup.gif
What a funny poster... Is it real?!
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My partner Mahtab (a very nice lady) is an avid poster collector. She was the one who got me started back in 1993. To return the favor, I introduced her to the Internet as a marketing tool. Her gift to me has had the greater impact, because I still love my posters while Mahtab hates computers and the Internet. We used to go to events like Cinevent together, but now she's too busy; I don't go very often either because I've usually got something else to do. Anyway I've never seen anybody at Cinevent with any Arabic or Persian posters and that's where most of my poster money goes these days. Mahtab does not know any Arabic but Persian is her native language so she's grown up on movies in Persian. Her poster collecting never involves Iranian posters, even though she has excellent ideas about which Iranian posters are the most desirable ones. She's an avid Audrey Hepburn fan and has a great collection of Audrey posters.
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My partner Mahtab (a very nice lady) is an avid poster collector. She was the one who got me started back in 1993. To return the favor, I introduced her to the Internet as a marketing tool. Her gift to me has had the greater impact, because I still love my posters while Mahtab hates computers and the Internet. We used to go to events like Cinevent together, but now she's too busy; I don't go very often either because I've usually got something else to do. Anyway I've never seen anybody at Cinevent with any Arabic or Persian posters and that's where most of my poster money goes these days. Mahtab does not know any Arabic but Persian is her native language so she's grown up on movies in Persian. Her poster collecting never involves Iranian posters, even though she has excellent ideas about which Iranian posters are the most desirable ones. She's an avid Audrey Hepburn fan and has a great collection of Audrey posters.
Mahtab sounds like a knowledgeable and avid collector, too, John. And to know that she is the one that got you involved in posters all those years ago.
It would be great to see what AH posters she has, as well as from which countries. It certainly sounds like she knows her stuff and what she likes. You should get to her to sign up here! I'm thinking she would also have lots of useful information to share. thumbsup.gif
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^ haha, another lady who has fallen for a handsome man on a poster and must get her hands all over it. thumbsup.gif
What a funny poster... Is it real?!
It is real and coming for auction soon, got it from HA !
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It is real and coming for auction soon, got it from HA !
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GO FOR IT!!! That seems like a "MUST HAVE" for you. Fingers crossed for you that you get it.
CHEERS!
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Ahhh agree.... there are so many " Must Haves" in that auction and 8n the forthcoming Morris...this year is exhausting... :P
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It's a man thing that's why. Aren't women more interested in collecting babies!!
Seriously though, I am sure there are a lot of women collecting babies (opps sorry I meant poster art) they are perhaps not so verbal or obssesive about it. I know there are lots of women who colect art posters (screen prints and the like as its probably more trendy to do that rather than dusty old movie posters!).
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It's a man thing that's why. Aren't women more interested in collecting babies!!
Seriously though, I am sure there are a lot of women collecting babies (opps sorry I meant poster art) they are perhaps not so verbal or obssesive about it. I know there are lots of women who colect art posters (screen prints and the like as its probably more trendy to do that rather than dusty old movie posters!).
I personally don't see the funny side of your post, rather sexist really. And women do collect vintage posters "dusty old ones" too.
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Don't worry Rosa, not funny to me either. I'll just assume he isn't aware there are serious women collectors here that read this thread. Since you joined you've had a stronger interest in posters than I have had.
Just ignore. Probably everyone here have read posts that rub them up the wrong way. Take Ted for example :P
And besides, I know I set pretty high standards in the funny department, some people still need to find their legs first
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I know there are lots of women who colect art posters (screen prints and the like as its probably more trendy to do that rather than dusty old movie posters!).
Just a tick poster art. Let's not slip into the 'all posters = movie posters' fallacy. The majority of posters are not movie posters - although most of the posters posting on here do post about movie posters...but NOT me! And to top it all, theatrical and advertising and design posters of the 19th Century are even dustier and older than 'old movie posters'. And as for the 'Star Wars' collectors...well sometimes I feel as if I'm surrounded! And I would say that if there is any 'trend' it has been to collect film posters because they are much more readily available and people tend to associate with them strongly because of their love of a particular movie or film star.
As for collecting babies? Well that simply wouldn't work. After a year or so they turn into something quite different thus invalidating your entire collection...
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It was by the way just a bit of humour, the "collecting babies" was a joke - off course I wasn't serious about this! But apols if anyone was offended. Incidently, 'dusty old movie posters collected by men' is often a comment I have heard and had directed at me - by women. I still think women yes, may appreciate the art of movie posters but definately not exessive at collecting things as men are.
Maybe we should launch a thread about babies in movie posters. There must be lots out there!
One of my faves has to be this Polish one by Walkuski
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/db/fa/25/dbfa2513a04f3a21d2c31437a19f2553.jpg)
And this more recent one by Leszek Zebrowski
(http://www.polishposter.com/images/4732.jpg)
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Another for Rosemary's Baby, that is also very creepy.
(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/rosemarysbaby_zpsdpavvmth.jpg)
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Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday. 55yo Karen, my personal assistants' supervisor, came by yesterday and complimented my "wonderful, amazing" MPs 25+ times.
Yep, it was partly to indulge a not-very-important client's whimsies, but it was mostly sincere. She praised several individual posters, including the "colors" of HSH:
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24879580_2048732432077356_189974477274407976_o.jpg?oh=e5dbadbf75983dd04e9b14efc9025707&oe=5ADC0FF0)
Two other recent female visitors also effusively praised them.
My stepmother "loves" the "I Love Melvin [Sr]" half-sheet I gave and wants me to loan "Let's Fall In Love" (nope!)
But none said "where can I get these?"
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On the other hand, Karen's two female predecessors never noticed or mentioned them. My two sisters have expressed zero interest in them and advised that I save my money instead. (One sisters did hang up 3 gift MP frames in her kids' rooms). Finally, my ex-GF showed zilcho interest in them or my enthralling MP war stories......
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Sadly lacking....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/FilmFun1924-04_zps61e8hbl4.jpg)
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Does Karen know how much they're worth?
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Does Karen know how much they're worth?
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Nope and I told my stepmother I spent a "pretty penny" on LFIL but I doubt she knows its true worth.
I should add that, except for two, none of my female legal colleagues/supervisors/clients ever said a word 'bout the 4 MPs I framed/rotated in my office. My male clients usually wanted to discuss the movies shown, but never commented on the merits of the MPs themselves.
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You should tell Karen what you paid for War of the Worlds, get your phone ready and post a picture of her face just as she registers the amount.
Do it!!!
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You should tell Karen what you paid for War of the Worlds, get your phone ready and post a picture of her face just as she registers the amount.
Do it!!!
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Then Mel goes to sleep and wakes to bare walls :)
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Then Mel goes to sleep and wakes to bare walls :)
I find both those very hard to believe
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I find both those very hard to believe
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Oh you MOORONS are TERRIBLE criminals! >:D
Not braggin', but I VERY poorly invested $5K each into Sullivan's Travels and LFIL. If I ever resell, I'll have tp sell them as Ebay BINS to recover my moola. So those also are primo nabbable!
"Dumb Criminals and Even Dumber Victim".....
Good news if you ever buy a ticket to Charlotte and get caught stealing'. (http://www.lolwot.com/10-of-the-hottest-female-criminals-ever/)
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Totally given up understanding those of the feminine persuasion. Been trying to preach them the virtues of our hobby, but mostly misfiring.
My "wild child" 29yo cousin professes zero interest in MPs but LOVES 1930s It Happened One Night, so I created and will print up this 30"x40"collage for her with her favorite line:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IHON_zps0jfp2jwi.jpg)
I showed her all the beautiful international MPs for Cassie but she only liked:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Casablanca%201992rr%20US%201S%20SSR_zpscvfltoau.jpeg)
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I sent my Aunt Phyllis the following:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Phyllis_zpsns7h20g7.jpeg)
Crickets....
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Finally both my sister - who has told me several times to stop "wasting" my moola on MPs - and cousin somehow LIKED one of my FB MP groups, which means - I think - ALL new posts to the group show up in their "feed."??????
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Any explanation "Cyclops Cinderella"?
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/23800030_2041225322828067_2307396001515011363_o_zpsd4bbzmf3.jpg)
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My "wild child" 29yo cousin professes zero interest in MPs but LOVES 1930s It Happened One Night, so I created and will print up this 30"x40"collage for her with her favorite line:
my wife collects romance lobbies and stuff and thinks most of the It Happened One Night Material is ugly.
I sent my Aunt Phyllis the following:
Crickets....
Not sure I get this, was she supposed to go crazy over some ugly lobbies starring nobodies just because her first name happened to be on the title?
Seems silly.
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Any explanation "Cyclops Cinderella"?
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/23800030_2041225322828067_2307396001515011363_o_zpsd4bbzmf3.jpg)
Such a defining photo of Lake, Sundance! She had such a huge, seemingly almost accidental, influence on style. Collectible for all, I say! Okie
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"Cyclops Cinderella" = 1941 Harvard Lampoon's description of VL, also deemed her worst actress of the year!
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So a couple of days ago my 20-something maid supervisor came by to clean my apt. and surprised me by asking me to help her and her hubby start a MP collection.
Apparently she spotted this GWTW:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_2081_zpss3hzwjjn.jpg)
So I said I'd send her info and headed to gym. She left me this note:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_2037_zpsueabqsom.jpg)
We exchanged a few emails and I offered her 11 free posters but she only wanted a 24x36 version of this so-called "ugly" IHON collage:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IHON_zpsoc9repty.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968013/Screen20Shot202018-03-2820at2011.34.3820AM_zpsbh43snks-2_zpsgif92e1o.jpg)
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BTW So I'm not posting for self-glorification, just "silly" fun and encouraging "all y'all" to promote our 'lil hobby....
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Well both Emma (cuz) and Laurie (maid) both thanked me and emailed me pics of the IHONs framed but I can't locate pics moron1
Yesterday, after I commented that most women "meh/disdain" MPs, Emma commented:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_3169_zps3dyc4wbr.jpg)
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(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Teamwork_zpsqfff3hvx.jpg)
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My new PA Jelen LOVES horror movies but has limited interest in horror MPs (?) [like most peeps, posters have no independent interest to her, just sparks references to actual movie itself]
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_3174_zpsplix30if.png)
But she oddly liked my "very cool" Signal:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Signal_zps9n6huodp.jpg)
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Finally, first positive thing my 48yo sis Rachael has ever said about MPs:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-05%20at%208.04.29%20PM_zpseml2bgjh.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-05%20at%208.04.48%20PM_zps0iihcb6u.jpg)
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Fascinating thread.
In my very limited experience, aside from "girly" collectables such as handbags, shoes and twee china nick-nacks, the majority of collectors that I've encountered have been male.
My professors would explain this discrepancy by saying that women are "socially conditioned" to prefer more traditionally feminine hobbies, and that we should solve this problematic inequity by "redistributing" men's movie posters to women.
Seriously though, they say that men tend to be more visually stimulated. I've sometimes wondered if that has anything to do with the gender distribution of this hobby.
It might be something to do with the so-called "male brain" or the fact that conditions like autism, with its emphasis on order and so forth, tend to be more prevalent in men, but that's speculation.
Yes, absolutely yes. I've thought of this before. It is very characteristic of anyone on the spectrum to have very narrow, specific, and obsessive interests.
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Fascinating thread.
My professors would explain this discrepancy by saying that women are "socially conditioned" to prefer more traditionally feminine hobbies, and that we should solve this problematic inequity by "redistributing" men's movie posters to women.
Seriously though, they say that men tend to be more visually stimulated. I've sometimes wondered if that has anything to do with the gender distribution of this hobby.
Yes, absolutely yes. I've thought of this before. It is very characteristic of anyone on the spectrum to have very narrow, specific, and obsessive interests.
I would think that this is part of it, for sure. Visual stimulation is just that, regardless of what visual is doing the stimulating.
The idea brings up a broader question, too, with regard to other collectibles like coins, currency or comic books, for example. Are these areas also more "male-heavy" as far as the ratio of men to women? (Or vice versa?) dontknow.gif
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What to do if your "old lady" bitches about your MPs (yep, this one is homely :-*):
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/IMG_3218_zpsw5lt8lkt.jpg)
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I would think that this is part of it, for sure. Visual stimulation is just that, regardless of what visual is doing the stimulating.
The idea brings up a broader question, too, with regard to other collectibles like coins, currency or comic books, for example. Are these areas also more "male-heavy" as far as the ratio of men to women? (Or vice versa?) dontknow.gif
My [female relative] was (is?) a designer luxury handbag "flipper." Like Mondo, designers deliberately underprice/under-produce these bags and limit access to them, e.g. will not sell to undesirable customers (like Russian mafia mistresses etc.) So she went to hyper-exclusive stores throughout Europe and bought expensive bags and resold them to resellers, who sell them to undesirables and black-listed customers. She says the stores carefully verify her identity - they're not open to the general public - and she is deemed an "acceptable customer." Big $$$$....
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-09%20at%205.58.39%20PM_zpst2v00d4i.jpg)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/2373_zpsdpt7jd7r.jpg)
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This explains la problema:
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https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/9876367/
They did a test on Kors bags in Norway , "cheap crap" was the verdict (and these bags they want 3000 krones for crying
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Haha, well this does NOT prove that XXs like or collect MPs, but it’s instructive:
1) MPs are the primary vehicle to promote online
2) Actors MUST do much more promotions nowadays themselves, including igniting viral social media fever, as happened here
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I posted these elsewhere b4 I learned about the social media success. Close to 1 million likes, 3K comments:
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968044/3E2B2C7D-12B7-473C-A59F-BC9119DF9E39_zpsizzl4bgo.png) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/HereComesMongo1968044/3E2B2C7D-12B7-473C-A59F-BC9119DF9E39_zpsizzl4bgo.png.html)
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/HereComesMongo1968044/05741975-4610-4BBD-BBC4-A1EB9AD72BCB_zpsfy23gvok.png) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/HereComesMongo1968/media/HereComesMongo1968044/05741975-4610-4BBD-BBC4-A1EB9AD72BCB_zpsfy23gvok.png.html)
LATimes includes MPs:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-2018-anna-kendrick-and-blake-lively-s-new-1529598748-htmlstory.html
(http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-2018-anna-kendrick-and-blake-lively-s-new-1529598748-htmlstory.html)
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Women don't collect posters because they are usually so damn practical about money. They will burn up a man's paycheck buying shoes, handbags, clothing because they will get used (worn) eventually. But they usually keep a sharp eye on the checkbook and will panic when the level of cash gets close to or below a certain level. Women want to have a certain level of comfort consistently and if they see a bump in the road coming, watch out.
To them spending crazy amounts of money of a piece of paper is a total waste because they see no point or value to it, and should be stamped out immediately.
It's rare but you will sometimes find a woman who collects posters, but they are the exception, not the rule. It's usually only a couple of pieces that speak to them esthetically and not massive accumulations like we see here.
Wimmen are craazzy!! starz.gif
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If thread is offensive as fuck and probably explains why however many women collectors there are don't much post on these boards.
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If thread is offensive as fuck and probably explains why however many women collectors there are don't much post on these boards.
There it is! What Ladeda said. Okie
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I agree, they rather buy shoes
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I agree, they rather buy shoes
Uncool, 50s. Ladeda makes a legit statement based on some of the posts that go off on stereotype "boys' club" posts. If someone as cool as Ladeda is offended, that really sucks for this part of APF. "Hand bags, ha, ha. Shoes, ha, ha." Just not funny. I make stupid mistakes, too. Let's learn from it, and strive to be better. It's poster collecting for all on APF, right? Okie
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Okie, at least sundancekid has stopped doing his Trump impression here with his posts how he's "bagging babes".
No idea if he lets them put the notch in the bedpost himself, or if there is a secret ceremony.
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Okie, at least sundancekid has stopped doing his Trump impression here with his posts how he's "bagging babes".
No idea if he lets them put the notch in the bedpost himself, or if there is a secret ceremony.
Hi Crow, Thank goodness we all have the opportunity to learn from our closet skeletons, eh? "The Ghosts That Haunt Me" by Crash Test Dummies comes to mind. Okie
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Uncool, 50s. Ladeda makes a legit statement based on some of the posts that go off on stereotype "boys' club" posts. If someone as cool as Ladeda is offended, that really sucks for this part of APF. "Hand bags, ha, ha. Shoes, ha, ha." Just not funny. I make stupid mistakes, too. Let's learn from it, and strive to be better. It's poster collecting for all on APF, right? Okie
Women prefer to buy shoes. I take pity simple facts are not what you want to hear. Do a poll with women you know if in doubt. If Ladeda doesn't agree women prefer to buy shoes, I'd like to hear. Women is a general term, of course there will be exceptions!
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What would the poll be? Would you prefer to buy a pair of shoes or a film poster? It's a bit of a skewed question seeing as we all (or most of us) wear shoes, but only a few of us collect posters.
I think you need to come up with a better argument than that to prove your point.
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Hi Crow, Thank goodness we all have the opportunity to learn from our closet skeletons, eh?
As long as we are all learning the world is a better place.
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Women prefer to buy shoes. I take pity simple facts are not what you want to hear. Do a poll with women you know if in doubt. If Ladeda doesn't agree women prefer to buy shoes, I'd like to hear. Women is a general term, of course there will be exceptions!
I see a lot more ladies shopping for collectibles, including movie posters, at conventions than I saw 40+ years ago. On the shoe front, there are definitely certain days and activities that I prefer shoes over movie posters. Okie
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I think steve was being facetious. Woemn today still pressured to look good to acheive hence the shoes over stinky fucking paper
I think men are more into collectibles generally than women, at least as far as certain collectibles go that would prob includes posters. Doesn't mean anything more than that.
Women prob have less disposable income too based on income inequality as well as family first responsibilities (thank god cause we are louches). Also most movie posters you bastards buy are for guy flicks which most movies are anyway so explains why women may have less inclination to get a star wars jaws james bond poster
I agree with ladeda there are stupid comments here and all over apf. Also agree people can learn by having said stupid comments debunked.
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To be fair...I dont find that "collecting" is happening as much in my generation as the one previously and It looks like the generation behind me is even less inclined...I'm 37 and I collect vintage movie posters, antique maps and prints pre 1800's (19th century), rare shells, old books etc....Most of my friends are between age 30-50 and not one of them collects anything...not comics, toys, posters, stamps, coins, shoes or cars...They either don't have a passion for antiques/nostalgia/collecting or they dont have any disposable income...the one curious thread between them is that if they have any extra $$$ or disposable income...they like to adventure and travel often...they like to eat expensive foods and travel the world as much as they can...I like to do both...collect posters and travel!! thumbsup.gif
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Interesting generational observation. I wonder if because they grew up in a digital world there's less of a connection with physical objects that remind them of their childhood? Posters and ephemera are direct links for me to movies that I love, not sure that connection is there with These Kids of Today. Might explain the interest in vintage game consoles, etc.
(Get offa my lawn.)
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It is a number of things...but ultimately alternative lifestyles break the bond that was created by capitalism for people to constantly want material objects...the "these kids today" is a antiquated term that speaks to that disconnect...One of the main reasons for the sea change is that there have been quick volatile movements and culture shifts: you can see it in literature, film and popular culture trends.... to live in the moment and create memories became a mantra rather than dwell constantly on "things were so much better back them" and "ahhh the good old days" nostalgia basking in a golden hue of memory...its a paradigm shift!...Destination tourism was literally created because of the SEE IT NOW...BEFORE IT'S GONE AND CHANGES! marketing...that speaks volumes about that shift...the one constant theme is that the middle class just doesn't have the expendable income it once had...collecting is a refined taste that takes a lifetime to acquire..perhaps the quickening of the times fights that reality
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Women prob have less disposable income too based on income inequality as well as family first responsibilities (thank god cause we are louches).
I actually read somewhere that, although men (on average) earn more money, women spend the most of it ;D
the one constant theme is that the middle class just doesn't have the expendable income it once had...
I personally think economy is a huge piece of why the younger generation is not collecting as much. My classmates from university who were able to get jobs had to move to big cities. We're talking tiny studio apartments. They don't have basements or attics to store things in, let along a closet to keep holiday decorations for every season of the year. The few (top one percent) who become corporate execs move to affluent suburbs and get cavernous McMansions with blank, white walls. That minimalistic look is really en vogue right now. I reckon it complements the vaulted ceilings. Oh, and did I mention the hours? If you are working a "professional" position, I am always told to expect a salary (not hourly pay) so they can make you work 80 hours a week without overtime. I cannot imagine finding the time or energy for a hobby with those kind of hours (not easily, anyway!). Tait, you bring up some really interesting cultural reasons, too.
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I think her bozo beau posted this on eBay to entice a sale!
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u536/HereComesMongo1968/2014%20BEST%20MPS/Poster%20chick_zpsgicjpwym.jpeg)