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Movie Posters => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chop-Top on July 23, 2016, 03:49:00 PM
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If not let me know when so I'll be able to get one. I've seen hundreds of them but never one that's in my price range. Paper that is priced that high usually denotes a certain amount of rarity, but this is not the case with the Jaws poster. It was one of the most marketed movies of the 1970's and its paper is everywhere, but yet it still seems to have a cult-ishly high price tag.
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..... yet it still seems to have a cult-ishly high price tag.
I don't know why you expect that to change. One of the most iconic movies of the 70s.
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The sheer quantity of the Jaws 75 poster is more than the amount of serious poster collectors, hence the price is artificially inflated. There are other equally as iconic, if not more iconic, posters with even more rarity that sell for less than the Jaws poster. The original Star Wars one sheet is a perfect example. I think I got one of those in NM for around $125. Also, if you notice the Jaws posters that actually sell, it's never for the $600-$1,200 price tag that most of them are set for. They usually sell in the $350-$450 range. For me personally, I don't want to spend more than $300 for a NM copy.
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Good luck with that.
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Good luck with that.
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yeah
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The sheer quantity of the Jaws 75 poster is more than the amount of serious poster collectors, hence the price is artificially inflated. There are other equally as iconic, if not more iconic, posters with even more rarity that sell for less than the Jaws poster. The original Star Wars one sheet is a perfect example. I think I got one of those in NM for around $125. Also, if you notice the Jaws posters that actually sell, it's never for the $600-$1,200 price tag that most of them are set for. They usually sell in the $350-$450 range. For me personally, I don't want to spend more than $300 for a NM copy.
Are you looking for a rolled or folded copy? Rolled and NM might be a bit more than 3 bills. ;)
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The sheer quantity of the Jaws 75 poster is more than the amount of serious poster collectors, hence the price is artificially inflated. There are other equally as iconic, if not more iconic, posters with even more rarity that sell for less than the Jaws poster. The original Star Wars one sheet is a perfect example. I think I got one of those in NM for around $125. Also, if you notice the Jaws posters that actually sell, it's never for the $600-$1,200 price tag that most of them are set for. They usually sell in the $350-$450 range. For me personally, I don't want to spend more than $300 for a NM copy.
$600-1200 price: retail
$350-$450: auction
Retail prices are higher due to being readily available to those who don't want to wait, and the retailers need to make a profit. It's the same with any other collectible.
Also, it's Jaws were talking about here. It appeals to all, even those outside the niche world of poster collecting. John Q. Public wants to have a Jaws poster in his home theater. Whenever one comes up for auction a good amount of people are going to want it every time, and bid it up accordingly. Getting a NM one for $300 is a tough request unless you get lucky on a poorly listed ebay auction. They regularly sell fixed price on ebay for $600+ even from non-dealers.
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Are you looking for a rolled or folded copy? Rolled and NM might be a bit more than 3 bills. ;)
No, just folded NM. There are very few posters that I require them to be rollled. Most of them are post-1990.
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$600-1200 price: retail
$350-$450: auction
Retail prices are higher due to being readily available to those who don't want to wait, and the retailers need to make a profit. It's the same with any other collectible.
Also, it's Jaws were talking about here. It appeals to all, even those outside the niche world of poster collecting. John Q. Public wants to have a Jaws poster in his home theater. Whenever one comes up for auction a good amount of people are going to want it every time, and bid it up accordingly. Getting a NM one for $300 is a tough request unless you get lucky on a poorly listed ebay auction. They regularly sell fixed price on ebay for $600+ even from non-dealers.
But most gaps between the retail and auction prices are not nearly as wide as with the Jaws poster. Like I said, there are other equally as popular titles that John Q Public wants like Star Wars that don't have those way above market retail prices that Jaws does. I'm going with the self-fulfilling prophecy theory. Those that believe Jaws is worth way more than the market value will price it accordingly. The same way that for the longest time Citizen Kane was the #1 rated movie on imdb.com. Those that believed it was the best movie, despite thinking rationally, voted it that way because others were doing the same.
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I have not got one yet, maybe later this year with my Christmas bonus I will be able to afford one.
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Frankly, I don't see the fuss. It simply is not that good of a poster.
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I think it is an iconic poster and would like to have one. For some reason I have a problem spending a significant amount of money on a poster that has been reproduced a million times.
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Frankly, I don't see the fuss. It simply is not that good of a poster.
I don't know about that. It is up there with the best in terms of sheer marketing impact. It really does what a movie poster is designed to do: it gets your attention and tells you what you need to know very quickly and succinctly. If it were 1975 and you were in a theater you WOULD notice that poster, and within a couple seconds you'd have a good idea what to expect with that movie. It's as iconic an image as any. Unfortunately it's impact is somewhat eroded by it's popularity.
Even if the artwork doesn't do anything for you I can't see how you could argue it is not that good of a poster - given what it was designed to do.
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But most gaps between the retail and auction prices are not nearly as wide as with the Jaws poster. Like I said, there are other equally as popular titles that John Q Public wants like Star Wars that don't have those way above market retail prices that Jaws does. I'm going with the self-fulfilling prophecy theory. Those that believe Jaws is worth way more than the market value will price it accordingly. The same way that for the longest time Citizen Kane was the #1 rated movie on imdb.com. Those that believed it was the best movie, despite thinking rationally, voted it that way because others were doing the same.
It seems to me there are a lot more NM+ Star Wars style A's floating around than there are Jaws one sheets. A lot of the Jaws posters are raggy.
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I don't know about that. It is up there with the best in terms of sheer marketing impact. It really does what a movie poster is designed to do: it gets your attention and tells you what you need to know very quickly and succinctly. If it were 1975 and you were in a theater you WOULD notice that poster, and within a couple seconds you'd have a good idea what to expect with that movie. It's as iconic an image as any. Unfortunately it's impact is somewhat eroded by it's popularity.
Even if the artwork doesn't do anything for you I can't see how you could argue it is not that good of a poster - given what it was designed to do.
Well, it is not terrible, but there are other posters from that era that don't get the same hype, and thus price.
Take "The Sting" for example. The movie was also iconic and won 7 Oscars, including best picture. The poster is classic, but sells for a fraction of JAWS.
Another iconic poster that doesn't sell for those prices is The Deep. That image of Jackie Bisset swimming upward is classic, especially in the insert format.
I think part of this is the fascination with the horror/monster genre. Since I don't collect that, I would tend to downgrade the poster.
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why dont you wait another 30 years, fans of that movie will by dying out and then the price will drop! (probably)
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I don't have a US One Sheet for it yet - I would love one as the film is in my top 10 faves, but I haven't got round to stumping up the cash for it.
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I'm happy enough with the Quad...
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i don't have the 1s either. Had one but someone else was willing to pay way more than it was worth to me so off it went. Still have the 40x60 and Aus 3s though. Really do want to get another 1s but won't go near those prices any time soon.
The one thing I have found is that for all the cringing I do now at the current prices, when I look in year I will say I should have bought now. They just keep climbing.
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Just reading the posts on this thread and seeing how many people still want the OS, it is obvious prices will not go down anytime soon. It is by far the most iconic poster of the 70s, way more than the Star Wars posters, since there is only one. I would certainly put it in the top 10 of the most recognizable posters ever.
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Just reading the posts on this thread and seeing how many people still want the OS, it is obvious prices will not go down anytime soon. It is by far the most iconic poster of the 70s, way more than the Star Wars posters, since there is only one. I would certainly put it in the top 10 of the most recognizable posters ever.
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For the most part no one is arguing this. What my original point was, that DESPITE this, there were SO many of them produced. I've been collecting posters for 13 years, and there are at any given moment 20+ Jaws one sheets for sale. There are far rarer posters that I've only seen one or two in over ten years that are also in high demand. It's the QUANTITY that doesn't match the PRICE. Got it?
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Stop whining and buy your freakin' poster already. And if it's too expensive for you, then don't buy it. Got it?
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People can sell posters for whatever amount they deem accurate. There are 14 Jaws posters on Ebay right now, from $600 to $3,400. 6 of them are Dave's. Some might sell, some might not. Ultimately, it is not the market speaking, but dealers setting the bar.
What is the market speaking, in my opinion, is Emovieposter. Bruce has sold 11 posters in good to very good + folded or tri folded condition in 2015/2016. All together, they average $600. That is a very good price for an iconic movie poster. Rare or not, it is a poster most people want, collectors and non collectors. Most posters we collect do not mean shit to anyone, this one does.
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Stop whining and buy your freakin' poster already. And if it's too expensive for you, then don't buy it. Got it?
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This brightened up my day
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Has everyone already gotten lots of gold bullion coins?
If not let me know when so I'll be able to get some. I've seen hundreds of them but never one that's in my price range. Metals that are priced that high usually denotes a certain amount of rarity, but this is not the case with the gold. It is one of the most common noble metals and is everywhere, but yet it still seems to have a cult-ishly high price tag.
The sheer quantity of the gold around is more than the amount of serious bullion coin buyers, hence the price is artificially inflated. There are other equally as precious, if not more precious, metals with even more rarity that sell for less than gold. Palladium is a perfect example. I think I got an ounce of that for $680. Also, if you notice the gold that actually sells, it usually sells in the $1300-$1400 range. For me personally, I don't want to spend more than $700 for an ounce of gold.
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Point hilariously made.
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I agree with eatbrie the dealers are "setting the bar". a few years back I bought a couple posters from a dealer, paid too much but I was inexperienced and his lay away plan made me pull the trigger so to speak, then I asked him if he was willing to negotiate on the price of his jaws posters, so I gathered history of prices of emovie's and e-bays last several and shot him that price, he said no way and basically wanted what he was asking on his site, I kinda see his point, why would he sell for a decent price just to find out it would end up on ebay or somehere else. (which I wouldn't do) but yes the dealers have got us by the short hairs.
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You need to cut the dealers some slack. We are generally not their customers, and they tend to be buying from the same auctions we are using.
What the dealer offers is immediate gratification with no fuss for the folks who just want the title. They either have the title, or are willing to do the legwork. That means they need to make a profit. They carry inventory and have definite overhead to cover. If you want the service, you have to be willing to pay the premium.
Specifically regarding the JAWS poster. There was a person (who will remain nameless) that bought every copy that came up for auction for several years. I felt he was trying to create a monopoly by cornering the market. It seemed to work as prices did increase by a factor of 6 in the last few years, but I do wonder how it will work long term as these posters again come on the market.
Matab Molari tried this in the early 90s with Audrey Hepburn material. Prices skyrocketed and remained that way for several years, but they gradually settled down after she left the hobby. Yeah, the very best remains at a premium, but other material now sells for a fraction of what it was getting 20 years ago.
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So what's a dealer? How many posters do you need to flip annually to be a dealer? Do you have to have a website with auction functionality? Employees? What if your family helps? Is Matt a dealer? If I flip some on ebay - am I?
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So what's a dealer? How many posters do you need to flip annually to be a dealer? Do you have to have a website with auction functionality? Employees? What if your family helps? Is Matt a dealer? If I flip some on ebay - am I?
Oh good grief.
A dealer is someone who can command more than auction prices.
A dealer is someone who relies on his sales to put roof over head and food on table
A dealer is someone who doesn't whine about a poster price. Either figures out how to turn a profit or passes in favor of a better opportunity.
A dealer is the person you consistently beat in auctions because you don't worry about necessary margin
A dealer is the person who knows more about any poster you can name than you do.
The rest of us are just hobbyists with an interest.
Oh yeah, bite me.
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The above doesn't ryhme, not a good song :-\
So the question is, what makes a good song dontknow.gif
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Stop whining and buy your freakin' poster already. And if it's too expensive for you, then don't buy it. Got it?
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Oh good grief.
A dealer is someone who can command more than auction prices.
A dealer is someone who relies on his sales to put roof over head and food on table
A dealer is someone who doesn't whine about a poster price. Either figures out how to turn a profit or passes in favor of a better opportunity.
A dealer is the person you consistently beat in auctions because you don't worry about necessary margin
A dealer is the person who knows more about any poster you can name than you do.
The rest of us are just hobbyists with an interest.
Oh yeah, bite me.
clearly you are still upset about your birth year not registering in the other poll..
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clearly you are still upset about your birth year not registering in the other poll..
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clearly you are still upset about your birth year not registering in the other poll..
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So are the dealers setting the bar or is my argument absurd? I can't stand idiotic contradictions.
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Has everyone already gotten lots of gold bullion coins?
If not let me know when so I'll be able to get some. I've seen hundreds of them but never one that's in my price range. Metals that are priced that high usually denotes a certain amount of rarity, but this is not the case with the gold. It is one of the most common noble metals and is everywhere, but yet it still seems to have a cult-ishly high price tag.
The sheer quantity of the gold around is more than the amount of serious bullion coin buyers, hence the price is artificially inflated. There are other equally as precious, if not more precious, metals with even more rarity that sell for less than gold. Palladium is a perfect example. I think I got an ounce of that for $680. Also, if you notice the gold that actually sells, it usually sells in the $1300-$1400 range. For me personally, I don't want to spend more than $700 for an ounce of gold.
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Rarity doesn't have a lot to do with pricing - there are lots of things that are rare that are worthless - demand is key - this poster is a high demand poster.
The market sets the price not dealers - if no dealer sold Jaw's posters at $600 plus per poster they would have to lower the price. The simple fact is many people are happy to pay that price or greater.
In your eyes the poster is overvalued and that fine thats your opinion but the market doesn't agree with you at the moment
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So are the dealers setting the bar or is my argument absurd? I can't stand idiotic contradictions.
Sometimes idiotic is fun
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Let me try to put things in a clearer perspective. I've been collecting original posters for 13 years. I collect from 1970-present. I have approximately 200 or so foreign and domestic titles all NM. With just a handful of exceptions I own virtually every rare and popular title since 1970. You name it, Goonies Map, Tron 82 Rolled with Game Text, TCM, Halloween, Evil Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Clockwork Orange X-rated, Godfather, Back to the Future, Mad Max, Star Wars 77, Day of the Dead Advance, Dawn of the Dead Quad, Escape from New York Advance and Regular rolled, and on and on and on. As I stated above, all are Near mint. I believe out of all of 200+ Nearmint posters, I've only paid more than $300 for one of them and that was the Tron Rolled with the game text , and that was like $340. So Basically, I have 95% of all the key posters since 1970 (still missing around 5 or so), and have only paid more than $300 for just one and maybe only one or two above $200. There's no way in SAM'S HELL I'm going to pay $600 for a single "ok looking" poster. Yes, the movie Jaws is well known, but for the most part when compared to all other 200 posters in my collection the Jaws posters is average. It has one of my strongest pet peeves right there at the very top, giant text referencing a book or movie. Yes, the shark portion is decent, but that art is nothing when compared to the Goonies Map, Back to the Future, Mad Max, Last Starfighter, and on and on and on. Like I said before, the prices of the Jaws poster have nothing to do with its value or gold bullion value (a nonsense allegory), or the popularity of John Q. Public. It has to do with the self-fulfilling prophecy of this poster unto itself. Every single movie poster webpage, book article, etc. all have it as the first poster the eye catches. It's the Citizen Kane of modern movie posters. It doesn't mean it's worth that much, it's just means it's priced that high. Collectors are forced to buy it at high prices, because they know it has a culture all to itself and it can never be had for a "bargain" like most posters on earth can be. But go ahead and keep believing the John Q Public or gold bullion nonsense, I'll be patiently waiting for that elusive bargain, if it ever shows up. Edit: The current range of the poster on Ebay is $1195-$3395.
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Im sure the question and sentiment is asked of many posters.. some see as overpriced/inflated and those that say the prices are what the market currently support. As another quick example, on HA, a Ferris Bueller's Day Off International OS just sold for almost $1800.00 (with the BP). I dont quite get it, but I know this poster usually sells for a pretty penny as well.
At the end of the day, it's what folks are willing to pay that sustains prices.
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Im sure the question and sentiment is asked of many posters.. some see as overpriced/inflated and those that say the prices are what the market currently support. As another quick example, on HA, a Ferris Bueller's Day Off International OS just sold for almost $1800.00 (with the BP). I dont quite get it, but I know this poster usually sells for a pretty penny as well.
At the end of the day, it's what folks are willing to pay that sustains prices.
and it was folded....
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Im sure the question and sentiment is asked of many posters.. some see as overpriced/inflated and those that say the prices are what the market currently support. As another quick example, on HA, a Ferris Bueller's Day Off International OS just sold for almost $1800.00 (with the BP). I dont quite get it, but I know this poster usually sells for a pretty penny as well.
At the end of the day, it's what folks are willing to pay that sustains prices.
The difference with the Ferris Int. is that it is truely rare. First it's foreign and the movie had nowhere near the campaign that Jaws did. I've only seen one of those in 13 years, whereas, I've probably seen 3,000 Jaws one sheets. Another example of a truly rare poster is the Alien Advance once sheet. While not as rare as the Ferris Int., I've seen maybe 5 in 13 years of that poster. I won't buy either the Alien Advance or the Ferris Int. because my collection max is pretty much $300. After that it's not a hobby that I care to partake in. Luckily I have both the regular Alien and Ferris one sheets so those don't matter to me anyway. It's the Jaws that both isn't rare and I don't have another version to collect that bothers me.
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An Attack of the 50 Foot Woman US OS (copies of which also show up all the time), just sold on HA for $9K (plus the BP).
Not rare, but another that certainly commands a premium any time it comes up for sale or auction.
This Gun for Hire also comes to mind - it shows up with regularity and always does well, too, a copy today also selling on HA for over $15K.
The idea being that certain titles and posters, even if numerous copies exist, always seem to do very well.
Jaws is also in this category.
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An Attack of the 50 Foot Woman US OS (copies of which also show up all the time), just sold on HA for $9K (plus the BP).
Not rare, but another that certainly commands a premium any time it comes up for sale or auction.
This Gun for Hire also comes to mind - it shows up with regularity and always does well, too, a copy today also selling on HA for over $15K.
The idea being that certain titles and posters, even if numerous copies exist, always seem to do very well.
Jaws is also in this category.
Those are also from 1958 & 1942. There is no other poster since 1970 that has the same aura that Jaws has, none.
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Those are also from 1958 & 1942. There is no other poster since 1970 that has the same aura that Jaws has, none.
Yes.. but I was suggesting that posters like this (of this caliber and appeal), regardless of year, and that show up continuously, still command and go for very good prices. Jaws, tho much newer by comparison, may likely be in that same kind of category, even in the year 2050. Hard to know for sure, but it's possible.
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Not sure what you mean by 'aura' here. May be something personal, and if it means that much, then you need to bite the bullet and pay the $600.
I agree that the Ferris intl is priced high, but it is an uncommon poster. Still I really liked the image. My solution was to buy the French 1P for $60 instead.
However, I can think of several posters that IMO have a better design and are of iconic films. Some examples:
Chinatown
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Back to the Future
Risky Business
Nightmare on Elm Street
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The list would go on, but it is very dependent on your tastes in film.
And Jaws fit into that same category and price point until 5 or so years ago when a certain dealer started buying up every copy available. Its called a cartel, and go ask the DeBeers if it works. Jaws is worth more, because IMO the price was deliberately manipulated.
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Not sure what you mean by 'aura' here. May be something personal, and if it means that much, then you need to bite the bullet and pay the $600.
I agree that the Ferris intl is priced high, but it is an uncommon poster. Still I really liked the image. My solution was to buy the French 1P for $60 instead.
However, I can think of several posters that IMO have a better design and are of iconic films. Some examples:
Chinatown
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Back to the Future
Risky Business
Nightmare on Elm Street
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The list would go on, but it is very dependent on your tastes in film.
And Jaws fit into that same category and price point until 5 or so years ago when a certain dealer started buying up every copy available. Its called a cartel, and go ask the DeBeers if it works. Jaws is worth more, because IMO the price was deliberately manipulated.
I disagree.
Jaws is way, way, way more iconic than any of the titles listed above.
I can for sure tell you that my 24 year old nanny has never heard of Chinatown, Risky Business or Nightmare on Elm Street. She might vaguely know who Freddy Krugger is, but I'm not even sure. She had never heard of Back to the Future until I showed it to her. She didn't know who Indiana Jones was. And btw, she grew up in LA. But I can guarantee you she's heard of Jaws and she knows what the poster looks like. Jaws was the first summer blockbuster and is arguably one of the most famous movies ever. Just ask any twenty-something who could not care less about anything pre-Pirates of the Caribbeans.
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Jaws is way, way, way more iconic than any of the titles listed above.
I can for sure tell you that my 24 year old nanny has never heard of Chinatown, Risky Business or Nightmare on Elm Street. She might vaguely know who Freddy Krugger is, but I'm not even sure. She had never heard of Back to the Future until I showed it to her. She didn't know who Indiana Jones was. And btw, she grew up in LA. But I can guarantee you she's heard of Jaws and she knows what the poster looks like. Jaws was the first summer blockbuster and is arguably one of the most famous movies ever. Just ask any twenty-something who could not care less about anything pre-Pirates of the Caribbeans.
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I agree with everything T wrote here.
And the "aura" of the 77/21-0 Star Wars is just as big as Jaws and way more common, that doesn't stop it from selling for multiples of what the Jaws brings now. It doesn't matter that both Jaws and Star Wars are not rare, the demand is there and the prices are what they are.
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Yes.. but I was suggesting that posters like this (of this caliber and appeal), regardless of year, and that show up continuously, still command and go for very good prices. Jaws, tho much newer by comparison, may likely be in that same kind of category, even in the year 2050. Hard to know for sure, but it's possible.
I highly, highly doubt there are as may seekers of those two older posters, than there are of the Jaws poster. I don't know many John Q Public's that are after those two. Maybe those keeping popping up because the same stock is being churned? And yes, I agree that there is no sign of the self-perpetuating aura of the Jaws poster easing up any time soon.
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I agree with everything T wrote here.
And the "aura" of the 77/21-0 Star Wars is just as big as Jaws and way more common, that doesn't stop it from selling for multiples of what the Jaws brings now. It doesn't matter that both Jaws and Star Wars are not rare, the demand is there and the prices are what they are.
With all due respect to the Star Wars 77x0ae934r or whatever hell the number is, that is a totally different situation as there are other versions of the Star Wars 77 poster that are original that collectors can opt for that don't have the 3q43rqroqrqew numbers at the bottom. I sure as freaking hell wish there were two versions of the original Jaws poster. One for the idiots to buy that says 75232.0--3-4r3 and the regular one for sensible people like myself to pick up. But unfortunately, that is not part of the mystic of the Jaws 75 one sheet poster. Again, there is nothing post 70 that resembles the hype of the Jaws poster, nothing.
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I'm still not certain I get your point.
Emovieposter this year has sold copies for $322, $805, $1,074, $624, $526, and $602 with the $322 copy being listed as fair to good and the others being listed as nicer.
Looking at closed ebay auctions I see sold prices of $775, $595, $510, $500, $500, $495, $450, $449, $341, $300, $300, and $279.
As you would expect the $279 is heavily worn and the $775 is very nice with the others being somewhere in between.
So there is obviously strong demand for this poster - ebay averages a sale a week and Bruce sells on average almost one a month and they continue to bring strong prices as condition warrants.
So your point is that because it is so popular and there are enough to find these buyers it should sell for less?
Shouldn't the argument be, thank goodness it's not a rare poster, because with this kind of demand the prices would be through the roof?
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I'm still not certain I get your point.
Emovieposter this year has sold copies for $322, $805, $1,074, $624, $526, and $602 with the $322 copy being listed as fair to good and the others being listed as nicer.
Looking at closed ebay auctions I see sold prices of $775, $595, $510, $500, $500, $495, $450, $449, $341, $300, $300, and $279.
As you would expect the $279 is heavily worn and the $775 is very nice with the others being somewhere in between.
So there is obviously strong demand for this poster - ebay averages a sale a week and Bruce sells on average almost one a month and they continue to bring strong prices as condition warrants.
So your point is that because it is so popular and there are enough to find these buyers it should sell for less?
Shouldn't the argument be, thank goodness it's not a rare poster, because with this kind of demand the prices would be through the roof?
Well, the lowest one you listed sold for $279 and the highest one on Ebay is $4,000. Tell me another poster that has this kind of price range? That's what I thought. Only the Jaws 75 has this type of mysterious aura that it garners a $4,000 price range for the same poster condition not withstanding.
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Well, the lowest one you listed sold for $279 and the highest one on Ebay is $4,000. Tell me another poster that has this kind of price range? That's what I thought. Only the Jaws 75 has this type of mysterious aura that it garners a $4,000 price range for the same poster condition not withstanding.
Obvious answer of course is Pretty Woman.
But seriously, a) There isn't a copy listed on ebay for $4,000 - let alone a sold copy for $4,000. b) the $3K ask price on ebay is for a rolled copy, the $279 sold price is for a beat-to-heck copy. World of difference between a high ask for a near perfect rolled copy and a selling price for a beater. Lots of (older, pre-90s) posters bring a much stronger price for a rolled copy than for a beat-up, ugly copy.
And condition IS withstanding. Many people desire to get the poster in as nice as shape as possible (yourself included). It seems auction prices average $250-500 for lower condition and then $600-1000 for nicer condition, the nicer the condition the higher the price. Rolled of course is another category.
And of course lots of posters have a $4,000 price range - maybe not many you look at, but lots do.
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Obvious answer of course is Pretty Woman.
But seriously, a) There isn't a copy listed on ebay for $4,000 - let alone a sold copy for $4,000. b) the $3K ask price on ebay is for a rolled copy, the $279 sold price is for a beat-to-heck copy. World of difference between a high ask for a near perfect rolled copy and a selling price for a beater. Lots of (older, pre-90s) posters bring a much stronger price for a rolled copy than for a beat-up, ugly copy.
And condition IS withstanding. Many people desire to get the poster in as niceas shape as possible (yourself included). It seems auction prices average $250-500 for lower condition and then $600-1000 for nicer condition, the nicer the condition the higher the price. Rolled of course is another category.
And of course lots of posters have a $4,000 price range - maybe not many you look at, but lots do.
Ok, I think you are highlighting the aura without even knowing it. How many posters from the 70's do you know of that will sell for $279 in "beat to heck" condition? Crickets....
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Ok, I think you are highlighting the aura without even knowing it. How many posters from the 70's do you know of that will sell for $279 in "beat to heck" condition? Crickets....
Going to assume you mean US (movie) posters and even then limited to one-sheets, or I could spend all night writing out a list.
But the short answer is several, and all of them would be rarer than Jaws (but not have the type of demand Jaws does).
So again, your point is basically - "Hey this poster in folded condition usually sells in a range of 1X to 3X, depending on condition.
I would like to find one in top condition for the 1X price, but have been unable to do so because demand is so strong."
I hear you. I think we all wish the posters we wanted were less expensive.
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OK, I am definitely the odd man out. Might be that I live in the midwest. We don't worry much about sharks in Lake Michigan :)
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Chop Top bringing attention to this poster in this forum no doubt has now added another 15% to the desirability and shortly prices for this poster. Good luck Chop
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The Jaws US OS poster has become an iconic piece of cinematic imagery, and is desired to this day, in 2016. As long as collectors are willing to pay the asking price from sellers or dealers, I would imagine that the current sales will continue.
When the buying at the current prices slows or stops - the sellers and dealers will then re-evaluate, I would think.
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Let me try to put things in a clearer perspective. I've been collecting original posters for 13 years. I collect from 1970-present. I have approximately 200 or so foreign and domestic titles all NM. With just a handful of exceptions I own virtually every rare and popular title since 1970.
What is (in your opinion), the rarest, post-1970 title that you own? You referred to a couple that were from that era AND that were also rolled copies. Might it be one of those? And if so, could you post a pic? Would love to see posters from the "folded era" that you managed to find rolled.
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You can always try for this copy tomorrow:
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/jaws-universal-1975-one-sheet-27-x-41-/a/7128-86728.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Open-BrowseThisAuction-120115
Good luck...
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Like I said before, the prices of the Jaws poster have nothing to do with its value or gold bullion value (a nonsense allegory), or the popularity of John Q. Public. It has to do with the self-fulfilling prophecy of this poster unto itself.
Perhaps you can explain why the analogy is nonsense?
It was meant to be humorous, but the point it illustrates is quite valid: something is only worth what someone will pay for it. This has been true since mankind first traded, no matter what the good or service. It doesn't matter if we are talking about bushels of apples, shares of AAPL, oil, gold bullion, Beanie Babies, or movie posters.
I picked gold for the analogy for a reason. It has some industrial applications, and people like it for jewelry because it's pretty. But it's value goes beyond what either industrial or jewelry applications would justify. Gold has a "mystique" that has given it value for arguably irrational reasons since antiquity.
Furthermore, you are free to believe something is overpriced, but this is ultimately a pointless exercise. Hell, you could even be right about the market being irrational (cough, Beanie Babies), but it still wouldn't change anything. Semi-related quote from John Maynard Keynes: "Markets can remain irrational a lot longer than you and I can remain solvent."
If you are so sure the poster is overpriced, and actually want some chance of influencing the market, start shorting it! Get as many collectors as possible to loan you their posters (you'll probably have to provide some collateral. Sounds like you have some other nice posters that would work). Sell all the Jaws posters. If you get enough people to loan their posters, you might actually be able to temporarily drive prices down.
When people want their Jaws posters back, surely you will be able to buy equivalent or nicer copies for pennies on the dollar! Let me know how this works out.
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I think Deke's analogies regarding gold and shorting are spot on. This hobby is of course entirely about supply and demand - and condition. I think it is great that someone who wants an original Jaws one sheet has so many different options available to them in the market place.
Mark
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I think Deke's analogies regarding gold and shorting are spot on.
Mark
totally.
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What is (in your opinion), the rarest, post-1970 title that you own? You referred to a couple that were from that era AND that were also rolled copies. Might it be one of those? And if so, could you post a pic? Would love to see posters from the "folded era" that you managed to find rolled.
I was looking through my collection of 70s posters, and could not find any "rare" US OS. I have a rolled Star Wars style C PG version (probably harder to find), or maybe the eye Deliverance, or a rolled Jaws sharkfacts. None of them are really hard to find, though. Can't wait to see what chop-top considers rare.
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Me too.. pcorn
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......... Can't wait to see what chop-top considers rare.
T
Yes, me too. I don't consider Alien advance and folded Ferris Bueller international to be rare at all. A rolled Ferris - now that is rare and I hope Rich will sell me his one day. ;)
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Yes, me too. I don't consider Alien advance and folded Ferris Bueller international to be rare at all. A rolled Ferris - now that is rare and I hope Rich will sell me his one day. ;)
Mark
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$650 on HA
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The difference with the Ferris Int. is that it is truely rare. First it's foreign and the movie had nowhere near the campaign that Jaws did. I've only seen one of those in 13 years, whereas, I've probably seen 3,000 Jaws one sheets. Another example of a truly rare poster is the Alien Advance once sheet. While not as rare as the Ferris Int., I've seen maybe 5 in 13 years of that poster. I won't buy either the Alien Advance or the Ferris Int. because my collection max is pretty much $300. After that it's not a hobby that I care to partake in. Luckily I have both the regular Alien and Ferris one sheets so those don't matter to me anyway. It's the Jaws that both isn't rare and I don't have another version to collect that bothers me.
Seriously? Look harder, buddy. I've seen at least a dozen Ferris and dozens of Alien advance. Not that rare at all and not even close to being as iconic as Jaws.
And 3,000 Jaws? Now that's a lot. Did you count them all?
T
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Seriously? Look harder, buddy. I've seen at least a dozen Ferris and dozens of Alien advance. Not that rare at all and not even close to being as iconic as Jaws.
T, maybe he means seen at his house?
Heritage shows at least 20 Aliens advances being sold and Bruce is well over a dozen also, but this is obviously someone who doesn't let the facts get in his way.
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T, maybe he means seen at his house?
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Chop .. I have a very specific question for you
do you think that one website should have the most pertinent information for pricing, period?
should only Bruce's auction results be the final arbiter of 'real values'
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T, maybe he means seen at his house?
oh wow.. I passed by this place last week, I didn't realize it was Chop's house.
I would have stopped if I wasn't in a rush
(http://www.comic-art.com/apf/house-05a.jpg)
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I bought the Ferris international that was in HA this weekend. It's one of my favorite movies, and I love this artwork for it.
I have an additional affinity for the movie because my analysis of the character dynamics in this film helped me learn a lot about filmic storytelling. In particular, it helped me clarify my thoughts on the importance of "character arc" in a movie. In the case of Ferris, the lead character has no meaningful character arc, but the film is still narratively compelling and hugely entertaining. The movie exists more as a celebration of what makes this character delightful, and how his non-traditional choices impact the world and people around him. The movie holds a special place for me personally and professionally because of this.
Sometimes irrational markets are made up of rational buyers who just have a different way of rationally valuing things than you do. They only look irrational to people who don't share those values. Perhaps that's why there's such discrepancy over the value of the JAWS posters.
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I bought the Ferris international that was in HA this weekend. It's one of my favorite movies, and I love this artwork for it.
I have an additional affinity for the movie because my analysis of the character dynamics in this film helped me learn a lot about filmic storytelling. In particular, it helped me clarify my thoughts on the importance of "character arc" in a movie. In the case of Ferris, the lead character has no meaningful character arc, but the film is still narratively compelling and hugely entertaining. The movie exists more as a celebration of what makes this character delightful, and how his non-traditional choices impact the world and people around him. The movie holds a special place for me personally and professionally because of this.
Sometimes irrational markets are made up of rational buyers who just have a different way of rationally valuing things than you do. They only look irrational to people who don't share those values. Perhaps that's why there's such discrepancy over the value of the JAWS posters.
liked (if we can like here)
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This discussion is officially in the shitter when people actually starting saying that the Ferris Int. and the Alien Advance are not rare. So let me see if I got something straight, those 2 pieces are NOT rare, so what does that make the population of Jaws posters? Extremely, extremely abundant? Hello aura...you keep revealing yourself!
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This discussion is officially in the shitter when people actually starting saying that the Ferris Int. and the Alien Advance are not rare. So let me see if I got something straight, those 2 pieces are NOT rare, so what does that make the population of Jaws posters? Extremely, extremely abundant? Hello aura...you keep revealing yourself!
Chop, wasnt this your argument and question to begin with? That Jaws OS are extremely abundant and therefore should be priced lower than they currently are? Or did I miss something? dontknow.gif
And congrats on the Ferris win, Keith. thumbsup.gif
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I think this topic jumped the shark when someone was hoping to find a nm rolled copy for $300....
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This discussion is officially in the shitter when people actually starting saying that the Ferris Int. and the Alien Advance are not rare. So let me see if I got something straight, those 2 pieces are NOT rare...
Well, they are certainly no Blackenstein (or Pelham Clockwork Orange, Rocky Drive-in Style, Sting Style B, Star Wars Concert, Get Carter art style, etc, etc that a host of other people would agree are much tougher than anything you have mentioned so far).
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This discussion is officially in the shitter
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Chop, wasnt this your argument and question to begin with? That Jaws OS are extremely abundant and therefore should be priced lower than they currently are? Or did I miss something? dontknow.gif
And congrats on the Ferris win, Keith. thumbsup.gif
Quite!
At the risk of being risqué, I do believe this thread has now disappeared up its own poo chute.
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I bought the Ferris international that was in HA this weekend. It's one of my favorite movies, and I love this artwork for it.
I have an additional affinity for the movie because my analysis of the character dynamics in this film helped me learn a lot about filmic storytelling. In particular, it helped me clarify my thoughts on the importance of "character arc" in a movie. In the case of Ferris, the lead character has no meaningful character arc, but the film is still narratively compelling and hugely entertaining. The movie exists more as a celebration of what makes this character delightful, and how his non-traditional choices impact the world and people around him. The movie holds a special place for me personally and professionally because of this.
Sometimes irrational markets are made up of rational buyers who just have a different way of rationally valuing things than you do. They only look irrational to people who don't share those values. Perhaps that's why there's such discrepancy over the value of the JAWS posters.
I love that Ferris poster. Yes, congrats.
So you're saying that there is no evolution of the character of Ferris throughout the movie, that he is the exact same at the end of the movie than he is at the beginning, that he hasn't learned a single thing throughout the story that would make him grow somehow and give him an arc? Interesting. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd have to watch the movie again, but if what you say is true, it's bold.
T
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I love that Ferris poster. Yes, congrats.
So you're saying that there is no evolution of the character of Ferris throughout the movie, that he is the exact same at the end of the movie than he is at the beginning, that he hasn't learned a single thing throughout the story that would make him grow somehow and give him an arc? Interesting. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'd have to watch the movie again, but if what you say is true, it's bold.
T
Yeah, I don't think Ferris has an arc. He is the agent of change in the film, forcing the world around him to change. Cameron, his sister, and even his Principal all have arcs due to his influence. But I don't believe that Ferris himself has an arc, or at least not a meaningful one.
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Yeah, I don't think Ferris has an arc. He is the agent of change in the film, forcing the world around him to change. Cameron, his sister, and even his Principal all have arcs due to his influence. But I don't believe that Ferris himself has an arc, or at least not a meaningful one.
pretty much have to agree with this examination of Ferris. He is the center upon which the story revolves, but he could be a stick of wood with the vignettes playing out on a tether, that's how well the character is designed. He is explained early and remains a consistent presence in a story that plays out around him.
This is very much something the story has in common with Raymond Chandler's 'Philip Marlowe' except that Marlowe has a little more active hand in the goings on, just barely. Ferris and Marlowe are almost psychoanalysts, guiding people 'to the light'
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pretty much have to agree with this examination of Ferris. He is the center upon which the story revolves, but he could be a stick of wood with the vignettes playing out on a tether, that's how well the character is designed. He is explained early and remains a consistent presence in a story that plays out around him.
This is very much something the story has in common with Raymond Chandler's 'Philip Marlowe' except that Marlowe has a little more active hand in the goings on, just barely. Ferris and Marlowe are almost psychoanalysts, guiding people 'to the light'
Yeah, in my own parlance I refer to this as the "Arc of Awesome." A character that already is so totally themselves that no matter how much the world tries to get them to change, they end up being a force that changes the world to fit them instead. The film exists as an examination and celebration of how awesome they are.
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Arc of awesome... I like that. Very nicely put.
T
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Yeah, in my own parlance I refer to this as the "Arc of Awesome." A character that already is so totally themselves that no matter how much the world tries to get them to change, they end up being a force that changes the world to fit them instead. The film exists as an examination and celebration of how awesome they are.
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Yeah, in my own parlance I refer to this as the "Arc of Awesome." A character that already is so totally themselves that no matter how much the world tries to get them to change, they end up being a force that changes the world to fit them instead. The film exists as an examination and celebration of how awesome they are.
the only difference I would make is that for Marlowe, he doesn't change the world to fit him, instead he exposes it for what it is.
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£775 and counting on EMP.
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£775 and counting on EMP.
Ssssh, don't tell Choc Top
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Ssssh, don't tell Choc Top
Is gsimpson71 Choc Top?
T
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A folded, near mint Jaws sold on eBay for $1495 last week. I just don't see them coming down to the $300 range any time soon.
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I don't have one yet. Is it pre-'46?
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Do you only collect pre '46?
T
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Do you only collect pre '46?
T
Looking over the collection, yeah, 99%.
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Is gsimpson71 Choc Top?
T
Whoops, Chop Top
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Looking over the collection, yeah, 99%.
Can I see the posters collection somewhere?
T
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Ssssh, don't tell Choc Top
Oops... I misread.
I thought you commented about the Choctaw. GoOn.gif
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$995 in the end...
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Can I see the posters collection somewhere?
T
I have very few posters, maybe 25-30 at the most. The majority of my collection are stills, lobby cards, and other paper items (window cards, trolley cards, pressbooks, heralds, etc.).
Posted some of the lobbies here from time to time, most notably on this thread: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,427.75.html
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Thank you all for the great read....I will have to list Jaws on my Christmas list now
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On a side note, does anyone know whether Doubleday printed a promotional poster of the original 1974 cover art?
Like this, by artist John Holmes.
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/8b4aaefccba71aa29abbcd5b66d4f36d/tumblr_n13kmrHfDd1s2pocso1_500.jpg)
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Is Chop-Top Irarubenstein.
http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4348035 (http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4348035)
If so, good for him. Great price!
T
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...so far.
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...so far.
I think T was under the, ahem, weather, when posting last
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Do you think perhaps he was hammered...?
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I think T was under the, ahem, weather, when posting last
Or maybe I was being facetious.
T
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I was watching Dave's auctions that ended on ebay yesterday and saw he sold a rolled Jaws for $1900+
for some reason, I don't think $300 is going to snag one of these anytime soon.......
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I was watching Dave's auctions that ended on ebay yesterday and saw he sold a rolled Jaws for $1900+
for some reason, I don't think $300 is going to snag one of these anytime soon.......
Maybe that guy who started the thread got it. If so, good for him.
T
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Another rolled copy on the horizon, for $2500.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-SHARK-HORROR-1975-1-SHEET-ROLLED-NEAR-MINT-UNUSED-/162293379509?hash=item25c97071b5:g:2eUAAOSw5cNYNiiA
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Another rolled copy on the horizon, for $2500.00
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAWS-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-SHARK-HORROR-1975-1-SHEET-ROLLED-NEAR-MINT-UNUSED-/162293379509?hash=item25c97071b5:g:2eUAAOSw5cNYNiiA
I wonder........ will they take $300?
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I wonder........ will they take $300?
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I wonder........ will they take $300?
I never stated I wanted to pay $300 for a rolled copy. Check it.
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Are you getting closer to your $300 Jaws poster Chop?
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Are you getting closer to your $300 Jaws poster Chop?
Nope and I won't until the hyper-stigma that surrounds this very common poster relaxes, which will most likely be never. Sigh...
If I actually liked the poster design more, I'd be even more irritated that it has such an aura. However, it's only a mild irritation since I'm not a huge fan of "textual references" within posters (i.e. Indiana Jones and Jaws).
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I never stated I wanted to pay $300 for a rolled copy. Check it.
$325.00 ?
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I have not got one yet, maybe later this year with my Christmas bonus I will be able to afford one.
So Steve... is it looking good?? prayer.gif
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"why don't you wait another 30 years, fans of that movie will by dying out and then the price will drop! (probably)"
That's a good one and presumably true !!
An alternative would be to buy this almost sold out "Pure Evil" fineart on Jaws replica, wait for the guy to die (less tghan 30 years) and flip it in posh gallery at Jaws poster price
http://www.graffitiprints.com/product/pure-evil-jaws-bunny/
As for me, I am fine with Japanese "Jaws 2" poster :)
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Nope and I won't until the hyper-stigma that surrounds this very common poster relaxes, which will most likely be never. Sigh...
If I actually liked the poster design more, I'd be even more irritated that it has such an aura. However, it's only a mild irritation since I'm not a huge fan of "textual references" within posters (i.e. Indiana Jones and Jaws).
OK, I'm curious. What do you mean by "textual references?" Don't most movie posters have textual references?
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So Steve... is it looking good?? prayer.gif
nope, my family just booked a cruise for next year so there goes my bonus. :(
thanks for asking.
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OK, I'm curious. What do you mean by "textual references?" Don't most movie posters have textual references?
References to other movies or books.
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$325.00 ?
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If I were in the market for a rolled Jaws (which I'm not, considering, I'm barely in the market for a folded copy), I would value a rolled copy at least double the folded version. Since I'm willing to pay $300 for a folded copy, I would in theory be willing to pay $600 for a rolled copy. But the market probably values a rolled copy at $15,599,000.75.
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If I were in the market for a rolled Jaws (which I'm not, considering, I'm barely in the market for a folded copy), I would value a rolled copy at least double the folded version. Since I'm willing to pay $300 for a folded copy, I would in theory be willing to pay $600 for a rolled copy. But the market probably values a rolled copy at $15,599,000.75.
well then split the difference, offer the seller $7,799,800.38.. maybe he'll sell it to you......
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well then split the difference, offer the seller $7,799,800.38.. maybe he'll sell it to you......
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Hell, if that's the case, might as well go for this one... it's still available and a real steal at only $3195.00, with best offers being accepted ;D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAWS-CineMasterpieces-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-ROLLED-NEVER-FOLDED-1975-ONE-SHEET-/191852753117?hash=item2cab50b0dd
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all these nay sayers.
put some work in, wait and keep trying, you'll get one you can afford, no rush.
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Here are a couple more (folded) copies listed for your consideration, Chop. Tho, with prices higher than what you were wanting to pay at the time.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAWS-1975-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-ONE-SHEET-VINTAGE-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-/322559096019?hash=item4b1a0534d3:g:DvQAAOSw8GtZRp39
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAWS-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-1975-1SH-27X41-HORROR-SHARK-VINTAGE-C9-NM-/302368122664?hash=item46668b6728:g:2TEAAOSwXetZVmyc
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I remember this thread about fake posters: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4572.msg217418.html#msg217418
Taking a close look at those two posters they are fake if harry caul was right ?????
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I remember this thread about fake posters: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,4572.msg217418.html#msg217418
Taking a close look at those two posters they are fake if harry caul was right ?????
The one shown in that linked message above is a US insert, (AND from tom loce), not the full size US one sheet poster.
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One ended at a good price at Bruce's, probably due to no one in the US following the sale. I would hate to have my stuff up on a 4th of July.
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Yeah.. I dont know for sure but I would guess that auctions held on any holiday might not realize the best prices.
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There were a few things I wanted at that auction, but at the end of the day, life is more important than posters. And beers. And pot. And good company. In that order.
T
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There were a few things I wanted at that auction, but at the end of the day, life is more important than posters. And beers. And pot. And good company. In that order.
T
Agree, agree and more agree. I'm still enjoying a last July 4th beer. cheers
BTW, where has Chop been? He hasnt been to the forum since last December. Maybe he snagged a low priced, rolled JAWS poster, after all.
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There were a few things I wanted at that auction, but at the end of the day, life is more important than posters. And beers. And pot. And good company. In that order.
T
Same here, didn't even bother to check my bids yesterday which I gonna say it is a very good things... Was too busy watching end of Season 4 of Bates Motel with wife, pot and beer (in that order).
And currently, I have a new obsession, I must go to Colorado to taste the Leaf by Snoop products. Any wind of change in my hobbies get immediate attention !
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One ended at a good price at Bruce's, probably due to no one in the US following the sale. I would hate to have my stuff up on a 4th of July.
T
Haha, I cleaned up at EMP yesterday but still got beat on three poster byEMP nut job bidders, who apparently don't know or care you can buy identical stuffz much cheaper on eBay...
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Even though only a (non-printed) submission, were it to exist, I might consider this, were it printed & available, as it conveys a very ominous vibe, imho.
(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11086.0;attach=7717;image)
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I just posted one for sale in the FOR SALE section of the page- yeah, the price ain't going down anytime soon :)
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http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=5040880
Probably one for the Mid Auction thread. At the time of posting, $2k... and climbing.
Poor old Chop...
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Poor old Chop...
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My almost perfect, folded example of the Jaws US one sheet sold at Christie's in October 2015 for £1600 (after fees etc came out with £1238). That that would still be a great result today!
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I own a mint rolled copy of this poster. Like the one being sold. I got it in 2002, one of the first posters I ever bought, and paid $127.50. I remember thinking it was too much.
Wish Chop had been there.
T
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I own a mint rolled copy of this poster. Like the one being sold. I got it in 2002, one of the first posters I ever bought, and paid $127.50. I remember thinking it was too much.
Wish Chop had been there.
T
Nice!
If you still think it's too much, I'll give you $150 for it! thumbsup.gif
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Well, since I'm not a seller and never will be, I think every single poster is too much. I will never see my money again.
T
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Well, since I'm not a seller and never will be, I think every single poster is too much. I will never see my money again.
T
Well I don't mind freebies at all!
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I finally got one, however it is the Australian version. about 1/4 of the price of what the USA version goes for. so I am very pleased and slowly getting used to the purple, and overall I think it is a rarer poster than the USA version. Bruce's site shows he has only sold 5 since 2010. ( I may be wrong on the exact number)
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I finally got one, however it is the Australian version. about 1/4 of the price of what the USA version goes for. so I am very pleased and slowly getting used to the purple, and overall I think it is a rarer poster than the USA version. Bruce's site shows he has only sold 5 since 2010. ( I may be wrong on the exact number)
Looking forward to seeing it, if you decide to post a pic of it, Steve. Congrats on snagging your copy, too. thumbsup.gif
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A quick question for the forum, and I hope you'll excuse my ignorance around this.
I've seen various pictures of the US Jaws one-sheet, and the border containing the credits appears black in some shots and dark blue in others. Is this simply something to do with the way the picture has been taken, or is there a colouring variation?
Blue
(https://i.imgur.com/DMnt2Kz.jpg)
Black
(https://i.imgur.com/wponU2w.jpg)
Many thanks,
Desk
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Hey Desk,
Yeah, it's just the lighting of the photograph. It is dark blue in person.
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Speaking of Jaws, I saw that Susan Backline signs copies of this photo at shows she attends.
Is this a real poster, or did someone mock up this for her and include fold lines and everything when they made it?
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Speaking of Jaws, I saw that Susan Backline signs copies of this photo at shows she attends.
Is this a real poster, or did someone mock up this for her and include fold lines and everything when they made it?
I follow Jaws posters closely and I don't believe that is a studio produced piece.
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I'm no expert, but I've been collecting Jaws posters here and there, and this poster doesn't exist.
As far as the other one is concerned, yes, there are all dark blue. International posters from Italy or Australia did use a lighter shade of blue.
Here's a link to my Jaws poster sub-collection so you can see what I'm talking about.
https://moviepostersgallery.com/jaws/ (https://moviepostersgallery.com/jaws/)
T
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Can anyone advise if there exists a rolled version of the Jaws one sheet without the NSS number?
Desk
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Can anyone advise if there exists a rolled version of the Jaws one sheet without the NSS number?
EMP has one example in their archive that does not have a NSS number on it.
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/15845518.html
Are you by chance asking in regards to an example currently on eBay? I would avoid that one since it doesn't measure 27 by 41.
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With all due respect to the Star Wars 77x0ae934r or whatever hell the number is, that is a totally different situation as there are other versions of the Star Wars 77 poster that are original that collectors can opt for that don't have the 3q43rqroqrqew numbers at the bottom. I sure as freaking hell wish there were two versions of the original Jaws poster. One for the idiots to buy that says 75232.0--3-4r3 and the regular one for sensible people like myself to pick up. But unfortunately, that is not part of the mystic of the Jaws 75 one sheet poster. Again, there is nothing post 70 that resembles the hype of the Jaws poster, nothing.
Reading through this thread, I'm not sure what is hard to understand about the Jaws poster pricing. The Jaws OS is probably the most recognizable movie image in the world. While Star Wars may have eclipsed Jaws at the box office, it does not have as broad of appeal. Also, as stated, there are far more examples of Star Wars.
As others have stated, many non-collectors desire this poster and want to be able to say that the one hanging in their home or office is an original from the 70s. Yes, normal people care about and desire this poster more than others from this period.
I would argue that the "Revenge" teaser for Jedi has a similar "hype" or "aura" as you put it, though on a smaller scale. The Revenge teaser is not rare, but commands huge numbers because of its perceived rarity and mystique.
Thankfully, I was a nerd in 1983 and purchased mine through the fan club for around 10 bucks. It is not in perfect condition because I was 10 and had no way of knowing that it would become valuable. But I would never replace it because of its personal history.
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I just noticed that for the first time in a couple of years, more than 30 days has gone by that emovie has not offered a copy of Jaws.
Maybe the supply is finally drying up. eyeroll
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I just noticed that for the first time in a couple of years, more than 30 days has gone by that emovie has not offered a copy of Jaws.
Maybe the supply is finally drying up. eyeroll
Their move to holding auctions every other week is certainly a factor in that.
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Their move to holding auctions every other week is certainly a factor in that.
I take it you guys don't monitor the bulk auctions?
Specifically the lot of 10 Jaws one sheets a few weeks back...
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What a great movie! Hard to beat the scar comparing scene and Quint's Indianapolis story. Robert Shaw was golden. As Quint, he reminds me so much of my grandfather. Okie
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I take it you guys don't monitor the bulk auctions?
Specifically the lot of 10 Jaws one sheets a few weeks back...
I'm not sure if you're joking. I have an alert set up for Jaws and that didn't pop up for me.
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What you guys need to get is a rolled one. That's the "rare" one.
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What you guys need to get is a rolled one. That's the "rare" one.
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True, Bruce has only sold six of those in the last two years.
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True, Bruce has only sold six of those in the last two years.
Thus the quotes, smart ass.
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Thus the quotes, smart ass.
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I'm just agreeing with you, sheesh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPYq7bmpldw
It's probably the greatest travesty in the history of poster collecting that the greatest film of the 1970's (hardly a feat, considering) has the ugliest image I've ever seen. For starters, the shark doesn't even look scary and it doesn't look like a Great White - its head is too narrow - it resembles a Grey Nurse shark, totally harmless! To me, the poster is worthless - I wouldn't offer anything for it and it's so frustrating as I'd really like some paper from this title (or franchise). The closest I've got was almost bidding on a Jaws 2 teaser with the red/orange background but even that is a bit naff. I'd settle for a fan made poster at this point. Does anyone know if the Italians created a non-generic one? It's funny, I'm not a fan of anything Italian - don't like their food, architecture, home design, furniture or fashion but I have to hand it to them, their posters - of usually the most striking scene or image are unforgettable.
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The Italians used the same images as you see on the US one sheet. There is an Italian 1P teaser without any text other than the title that is super clean.
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/JAWS/tag/nation%253AItaly/archive.html
If you are looking for alternatives to the Roger Kastel image you might check out some of these:
Turkey: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/JAWS/tag/nation%253ATurkey/archive.html - This is the Jaws 2 shark
Poland: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/JAWS/tag/nation%253APoland/archive.html
India: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/JAWS/tag/nation%253AIndia/archive.html
Thai: https://www.moviepostersgallery.com/poster/jaws-34/
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Probably one of my favorite poster. This is the 7 sheet which I bought a little while back.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50548263288_de541e6a0a_k.jpg)
I have an Indian one sheet that I had never seen before en route to me.
The rest can be seen in my sub gallery here... https://www.moviepostersgallery.com/jaws/ (https://www.moviepostersgallery.com/jaws/)
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I'm excited to see this new Indian one sheet. Although that means another poster I have to find.
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https://youtu.be/WXcqkcROAvI
Thanks, Eric. I'm familiar with those, I almost bought the Turkish, although I think the Indian is my favourite of the official posters - so cheap, so tacky, so good - Uhhrrrrr..
Thierry, I thought the seven sheet Jaws didn't have a dark border - or any border? It's certainly an improvement over the one sheet, owing to the lack of text but the shark is still a Grey Nurse! Yes, I've seen your collection. The one of Robert Shaw on the boat is the best although I think the perspective is off, slightly. It's almost there, but isn't everything...
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I'm excited to see this new Indian one sheet. Although that means another poster I have to find.
So here we go... the beautiful Indian Jaws w green waters hahaha!!! Definitely a completist item. I can't imagine anyone being interested in green water Jaws. But I love it!!!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50567062568_b83cc7190f_b.jpg)
PS: I didn't know you were a Jaws completist. Show us your collection!
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That is sure something! I don't suspect a lot of other people are going to be clamoring over that one.
PS: I didn't know you were a Jaws completist. Show us your collection!
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I've shared a couple of my pieces but not very many of them. This is a good reason to start doing that. There are a few Jaws pieces that I have that you don't but you are definitely way ahead of me, especially on the super rare stuff. I have more from the sequels, especially the junk from Jaws 3D and Jaws: The Revenge.
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Yeah, I don't collect Jaws 3D and Revenge. Only the first Jaws really, because it's Spielberg's and I collect his stuff. I have a few Jaws 2, but very few.
Show me what I'm missing from the 1st one. I'm always interested. Like this Indian os. Didn't even know it existed until I saw it.
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So here we go... the beautiful Indian Jaws w green waters hahaha!!! Definitely a completist item. I can't imagine anyone being interested in green water Jaws. But I love it!!!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50567062568_b83cc7190f_b.jpg)
PS: I didn't know you were a Jaws completist. Show us your collection!
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This one looks like a Simpsons episode. Jaws comes to Lake Springfield.