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Common Poster Subjects => The Dealer/Auction House/Seller/Buyer Round Table => Topic started by: CineMasterpieces on July 11, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
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Every now and then we have some amusing email conversations. Here is the latest one. It involves our listing for a Star Wars style A "funky text" one sheet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182122760223
This poster is clearly authentic and anyone who knows anything about Star Wars posters knows it is. Except for this guy who thinks he knows better than everyone.
I'm not deleting or editing his ebay id. I don't know his name so it does not really matter.
Here is the conversation:
88letty88
How is it Ebay let's you sell fake posters here? Clearly this is not an original. The one you have is a restrike. It's a felony what you are doing. I suggest you pull this poster because if I see it again, I will report you to the district attorney's office here in Los Angeles for selling fraudulent memorabilia.
cinemasterpieces:
You are wrong. It is absolutely 100% authentic and so is the other one you emailed us about. Try going after the people who are selling bootlegs as originals. They are all over ebay. Good luck. Check out our articles page at cinemasterpieces.com and our guides here on ebay where we discuss the bootlegs/restrikes in detail. Who are you?
88letty88
The print is wrong, it has missing text, and the folds are incorrect. It's 100% a re strike print. Sending this communication to the District Attorney's office with evidence of fraud. The poster is a restrike and you are criminally liable. Just because you are reselling a restrike, doesn't make it legal. I would contact your lawyer if I were you. No further contact will be made from this venue. Expect contact from eBay as we are filing legal notice with eBay.
cinemasterpieces:
You almost had me there matt. Is it true that you are a transexual? I'm sure you are stunning now. Tell the district attorney I said hey.
(I thought my friend Matt was messing with me, oops!)
88letty88
I guess Arizona is a nice place to hide while selling fake merchandise online. I'm sure the penalties in AZ are just as strict as in California. Reported to ebay.
cinemasterpieces:
Ha! so much for your statement "no further contact will be made from this venue". And who is hiding? That would be you, scared little man hiding behind a barely used anonymous ebay id with no name, no phone number, and no address. I'm completely reachable by phone, email, and in person at our office. You can try to harass me, but I find it amusing. You know as well as I do that we are one of the most respected dealers of vintage original movie posters in the world. We do not pass of fakes as originals. Never have, never will. I understand your frustration, jealousy, and hatred because we can sell the same posters you try to sell for much more than you can. People trust us because of our honesty and integrity. You should try it. I'm done feeding the troll.
88letty88
style A funky test??? LOL get real. tri fold??? Who are you kidding??? There is missing text noting the style. This is not an original theatrical released poster. It's a re strike. That's all it is. I worked in distribution for years and I know fakes when I see them on the spot. You are selling a fake. You know it and I know it. When the DA knows it too you'll be hearing from their office. You're nothing but an online thief. Instead of using a gun to rob people, you use a printer and a computer.
cinemasterpieces:
Now I just feel sorry for you because you are seriously uninformed and I believe you think the stupid things you are saying are true. Here is some more food for you troll. Learn something.
The Star Wars style A one sheet was printed at least four different times back in 1977. This is an undisputed fact. There are subtle differences between all the printings. The "funky text" style is one of those printings.
Here is just one sold by Heritage. They have sold it several times over the years.
http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/science-fiction/star-wars-20th-century-fox-1977-one-sheet-27-x-41-style-a-science-fiction/a/161549-51415.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515.
And here are TWENTY ONE of them that have been sold by emovieposter over the years.
http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/searchfield/title/search/STAR%2520WARS/mode/2/type/1sh/style/style%2520A/style/fourth%2520printing/archive.html
Learn something before you go out again and start spouting nonsense. Read our articles.
http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/cinearticles.htm
88letty88
What does your fake poster have to do with another company's auction? Oh, if somebody else is selling fakes, then it's ok for you to do as well? Your specific poster is a fake. It's a re strike. It was never used in any theatrical distribution (which is what the term 'original' implies.) and was never displayed in any theater. The age of the poster can not legally be verified. You got ripped off when you bought it and are now trying to rip off a unsuspecting buyer? How do you live with yourself? What a scam.
cinemasterpieces:
ha! so now you think emovieposter, Heritage, CineMasterpieces, and all the other major professional dealers and auction houses who have sold this "funky text" style one sheet as original are wrong and you are right.
That makes total sense.
Go to the allposter.com message boards and ask all the long time collectors there if it is a real original theatrically issued one sheet. I dare you.
Contact Steve Sansweet and/or Pete Vilmur at Lucasfilm and ask them. If you don't know who they are, they wrote The Star Wars Poster Book for Lucasfilm in 2005. I dare you.
I'm sure you won't do either of these things because you have already dug your hole too deep and now there is no escape for you. I'm sure no matter how much indisputable evidence is given to you, you will still stick to your guns and not give in. And I'm sure you are too scared to give up your anonymity. Brilliant.
I'll bet you can't get even ONE other person on this planet to agree with you. Not one. If by chance a miracle occurs and you do find someone as misinformed as yourself please give them my number as I'd love to hear from them. Nothing amuses me more than gross stupidity.
Have a nice life.
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Hahahahahaha... hilarious. What a nutcase. The DA bullshit is the best. Some people are really born with half a brain. And btw, Dave, you must have a lot of time on your hands to even engage with the idiots of the world. I would have let it go after his 2nd answer.
T
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yeah, usually I'm way too busy to deal with this nonsense but the summertime is usually slow so what the hell, why not have some fun.
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I hear you. It amazes me that you managed to remain courteous through the entire exchange. I could not do it. Did he ever come back to you after your last post? What can you even say to that? It's all there.
T
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no not yet.
If he responds I'll post it here.
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I reported you to the Lollipop Guild. YOu won't be able to sell n Munchkinland anymore...
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Good one Dave, I do love to troll a troll!
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Now, That's Entertainment!
Well done, Dave.
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That's classic!
Please say you have more?
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Here is another conversation we had yesterday with one of our clients.
Our client used to work for ILM and he worked on all the original Star Wars films. Now, most of us have heard the story about how George Lucas changed the name from RETURN OF THE JEDI to REVENGE OF THE JEDI because Jedi's do not take revenge. And that's pretty much it. I've never heard any details about this story, until now. Back when they were filming RETURN OF THE JEDI several members of the cast and crew including George Lucas, Anothony Daniels, our client, and several others were flying on a private plane to Death Valley to shoot some of the Jabba the Hut scenes. Our client says he remembers a conversation was started about the film's title by someone named Howard. He suggested that Jedi's don't take revenge, and then everyone else started chiming in saying "yeah George...Jedi's don't take revenge!" and they all ganged up on George and harassed him until he finally saw the light.
I know it doesn't add a whole lot to the story, but I found it fascinating to hear it from someone who was actually there.
Dave
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Howard Kazanjian is the producer of the movie and I had heard the exact same story from someone who worked on Jedi (maybe your client ;)), which goes to corroborate that Lucas is a gigantic hack.
T
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................ the story about how George Lucas changed the name from RETURN OF THE JEDI to REVENGE OF THE JEDI because Jedi's do not take revenge. .............
Wasn't it the other way round?
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oops :-[
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Not a conversation this time but some interesting statistics.
We just finished our latest NO RESERVE auctions all starting at $1.00 and again there were some surprising results.
Revenge of the Jedi 1sh C7-C8 rolled but damaged $1525.00
Return of the Jedi 1985 re release folded 1sh C9 $430.00
Empire Strikes Back style A folded 1sh C9 $810.00
Blade Runner 1sh folded C9 $760.00 - although I believe this will probably be a non paying bidder (a jealous wannabe dealer with a fake ebay id with too much time on his hands - I know who it is)
...and several others that did quite well.
We also ran a facebook ad again as an experiment. Total budget was $360.00 for 9 days.
The ad showed a picture of The Empire Strikes Back style A one sheet we were auctioning. By reading all the comments you can see that people really love this image.
The ad appeared in over 320,000 different peoples facebook feeds. So that is about one tenth of a penny per view.
The ad was targeted to people in the U.S. only, movie lovers and sci fi lovers, men and women 18 to 65+.
over 600 people shared it.
over 12000 people Liked it.
17 people did NOT like the ad and asked to HIDE it.
about 8400 people clicked on it, 89% were men and 11% were women.
over 200 people commented on it.
our page received over 350 additional Likes while the ad was running. Normally we get just a few every week.
Even with all this information it is impossible to say for certain if the ad was worth running. Did it enhance our auction results by bringing in new bidders? Probably a little bit. Not sure if we'll do it again next time but we probably will.
Dave
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Thanks for sharing, Dave. I love reading stuff like that. The number of likes and shares of the ad is impressive!
Is the ad cost a flat fee? Or does the cost increase if you get more clicks?
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It is not like google where you pay per click. You set your budget and let it run. I had no idea that so many people would view it.
I'm not sure exactly, but I think the way it works is the more people that react to an ad (like, comment, or share) the more people it is shown to. I would bet that if we put up a less appealing poster image we would have received far less interaction and views.
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It is not like google where you pay per click. You set your budget and let it run. I had no idea that so many people would view it.
I'm not sure exactly, but I think the way it works is the more people that react to an ad (like, comment, or share) the more people it is shown to. I would bet that if we put up a less appealing poster image we would have received far less interaction and views.
I saw it several times. Kirby has been running one too with a Love is Better Than Ever Poster... They show up - I am guessing based on pages you like etc...
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You hit the nail on the head, Dave.
The reaction from Facebook is going to come down to which poster (image) is chosen. The more interesting and mass appealing it is, the greater odds for shares and likes to bump up the impressions and lower the cost per impression.
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Above average returns on a lot on key items? 12,000 likes? 8,400 clicks? Looks to me like it was totally worth it. Also think of the value-added in future auctions or other posters being sold on the main site. Good for you!
ps. I don't work for FB!
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Thanks for sharing, Dave., interesting for sure. I'd bet it had a huge impact on your auctions with that kind of click through.
In another life I was a wedding photographer and experimented with Facebook ads. I was always pleased with the adds, and ended up with many jobs from it. It was interesting to see which of my images favored best, and with which demographics per specific image... as it was with your stats.
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Thanks for posting that info, Dave.
And, congratulations on such successful auction results!
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I didn't see the poster. Didn't even know you had a sale :( Although I don't talk about posters on my Facebook page. Very few of my friends know that I collect posters. I talk about posters here. Is that why I didn't see it?
My next question is, did the FB image bring new clientele? Names you've never seen before?
And grats on the sale.
T
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thanks everyone.
Are you in the USA? The ad was targeted to those in the US. If you are here then I have no idea why you did not see it. Maybe if I set a higher budget more people including you may have seen it. But I'm not complaining because more than 320,000 views is a lot.
Every time we run our auctions there are always several new buyers we have never seen before. I'm sure facebook brought us at least a few but I'm not going to ask people "hey, did you see our ad on facebook?"
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Yes, I'm in California. And I'm on FB 50 times a day. No kidding, I live and breathe FB. But again, if it was aimed at people who even remotely talk about posters on FB, it isn't me.
T
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Interesting numbers there Dave.
I know nothing of FB, much less the advertising possibilities, so was fascinating to see the click through etc.
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One of the recent many thank you's we have received from an ebay buyer who bought a bunch of fake inserts from the notorious minty white peddlers. He tried to flip them and immediately sell them to us after he won them at auction.
"It is good that we had this conversation, upon doing some detective work, I discovered the seller of these inserts I own has had several negative hits in terms of selling counterfeit posters which leaves me no reason to believe my shining, clockwork orange, or ROTJ are legit. I initiated returns on ebay and the seller without a single iota of protest just accepted all three returns further confirming the fraudulent nature of these inserts. It is crazy how real and top notch they look though, since there were many bidders in these auctions I did not bother to check the sellers feedback score, Well now I know!
I will be getting a few hundred dollars back but still utter bummer though.
Thank you for the information on this."
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Egbert or Loce? Have a pick!
T
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as far as I know, egbert does not sell minty white inserts (even though he IS quite insane and does sell 27" x 40" Friday the 13th one sheets and rolled Manhattan one sheets). So it was definitely professor powers himself.
on another note........we sell the Star Wars style A one sheet bootleg (correctly described as such) on a regular basis. Today someone bought one and asked for a COA. Seriously.
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Do you stamp them, Dave? I seem to recall you stamped them "reprint" on the back.
T
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Yes we stamp them 3 or 4 times all over the back "THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOVIE POSTER". You can see the stamps from the front if you hold them up to the light. I would even bet that if one were linen backed you could probably see the stamps if held up to the light looking at it from the back through the linen.
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on another note........we sell the Star Wars style A one sheet bootleg (correctly described as such) on a regular basis. Today someone bought one and asked for a COA. Seriously.
That one resulted in a coffee splashing moment. Just Perfect.
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My first Pawn Stars episode premieres tonight Monday April 17 on the History Channel.
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What's Pawn Stars?
T
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What's Pawn Stars?
T
http://www.history.com/shows/pawn-stars
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Oh. Sorry, I don't watch reality TV. How are you involved in this, Dave?
T
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Hey Dave,
Can you tell us how "real" the show is, at least in your experience? I always hear that a lot of the supposed transactions are fake or figured out beforehand, and then sort of acted out for the cameras.
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S 14 E 3
Oh Holy Pawn!
TV-PG L
Get holy with the Pawn Stars as Rick gets the chance to purchase a page from the Gutenberg Bible. Known as the first printed book, will the single page break Rick’s bank or leave him wanting more? Then, Corey checks out a rare six-sheet movie poster from the classic “Ziegfeld Follies” that’s so big it doesn’t even fit on the counter. Will he offer a larger than life price, or leave the seller singing in the rain?
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Just like the kardashians, the show is 100% real wynk dancingalien.gif
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A brief but good evaluation on the show. thumbup
spoiler It was interesting to only hear the "market value" appraisal, as I was thinking the cinemaster appraisal would also be included.
In any case, great 6 sheet, with very nice George Petty, pin-up style art, featuring Lucille Ball. 8)
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Hopefully it sends some more traffic to your site and into the hobby. Any way to see the clip for those of us who don't pay for cable?
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Sorry, we can't post a clip. It is available on the pawn stars history channel website.
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I only watch porn for the movie poster decor I SWEAR.
Seriously, DO NOT click on the link below if hard core porn offends you.
https://www.thumbzilla.com/video/ph59b0be5d9a203/wifey-banged-on-the-couch-swallows-a-big-load
If this is against forum rules I'm terribly sorry. It won't happen again.
Nice posters in the background though :)
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there were posters back there? Didn't notice... thumbsup.gif
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Here is an email we received recently. Have fun reading this delusional mess :)
Subject: Very rare PROMOTIONAL folded 1982 poster
DO NOT JUST SCAN FOR BRIEF DETAILS LIKE IMAGE/SIZE TO QUICKLY ASSESS. THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PRINT!
Hello!
I have not put any serious thought into selling this poster, especially since I just found this thing in my closet today, and for all I know, it's totally worthless (but I seriously DOUBT THAT as the more I research what I'm actually holding on to, the more I realize it's so rare folks aren't even going to realize what they're looking at)... In fact, an auction house got back to me as I was still typing up this email with a quick 2-line sentence reply, saying it was "commercial and worthless." Which, I absolutely find to be interesting, considering that I didn't purchase this in the store - nor was it even a gift from a relative or friend from the store - NOR is it even from the same batch stores received for OBVIOUS reasons... It was given to me at the theater by people promoting the movie. It was folded (see 2nd to last picture). And I'll tell you this much: out of everybody who has one of these #3 posters online, like on eBay? I am the ONLY one that seems to have a folded promotional poster. There is literally a possibility that I have the only surviving original promotional/folded version of this poster in the whole world. All the others I found online were newer, and literally rolled versions. Commercial wouldn't have sold posters with creases in them - when folks spent money, they expected crisp, clean, smooth copies ...not something that looked like it just came out of a magazine fold. And as you can tell, by the condition of those FEW rolled posters others advertise online (theirs are extremely smooth, and the color seems more vibrant, and the image is clearer on their "worthless" posters) mine is NOT the same (even if mine was in excellent condition without the wear, mine would still prove to not be from the same commercial prints - I will also add that even though it had minimal protection, the poster has always been in a dry dark place). And yet, I'm seeing these sellers seek anywhere from 20 to 120 bucks for commercial-rolled (which were store bought AFTER the movie released) one person is selling a 3-pack of rolled posters (each with a different image) for $200 - and I actually have confidence that these people are going to get what they ask for (even if it requires a little time and patience) for their "worthless" posters. The irony in all of this, is that, I find it's even harder to find THIS (my) poster online, than even the ones claiming to be rare, like the ones used inside theater. My poster IS actually rare, compared to the hundreds of actual movie posters out there claiming to be rare... it just doesn't make sense. Lots of folks were given a folded poster by the movie theater, before the movie came out, to advertise and make people wonder what this weird-looking creature was all about with very little information at the time. At least at that San Diego theater this is true...And, after the movie came out, fans wanted a nice clean crisp poster, and so they ran out and bought the commercial one to replace it and tossed the folded one away. Fortunately for me, my parents were cheap as hell LOL. So I was stuck with the folded one. So, I know that really, it WILL BE a matter of what a buyer wants, and not what an auction house wants (besides, houses are just scammers for their fee anyways). That auction house that dismissed me WAY to quickly is either incompetent or lazy... That is, unless, the auction house just wants me to give up, and put it up for sale online for five bucks, and keep an eye out, so they can snag it, and make a TON of money. I'm no dummy. I know exactly where I got this poster from. I know exactly how rare mine is.
But, I'm definitely seeking multiple professional opinions regarding the piece, and will go from there. There has to be some kind of history or examination that can prove that what I'm saying is true. You may tell me it's worthless, too, but I'll tell you, I know darn well I didn't get this in the store. And even if everybody that I contact comes back at me with the same story, I will still try to sell it for what I want on my own - I guarantee there is a buyer out there who is going to know what I know about my poster, and they are going to want it, and know it's true worth. There are folks out there who have money to spend on their fancies, who are fully aware that NOT all posters had to be displayed inside the theater in order for the poster to be an original (see last image attached). In my posters case, they are generalizing way too much and not actually paying attention to what's in front of them. Many of them are just dismissing me by briefly scanning key words or the image itself, and actually ignoring their own guidelines to what makes this the kind of poster I say it is; because they have not yet come across one yet - IT'S THAT RARE... Fair condition, or not, it WILL sell, because, unless there are collectors out there who are holding onto one quietly, refusing to let it go, I very well may have the only one in existence.... But, in any event, the poster has me intrigued, and I feel like I'm on a little treasure hunt - even though I'm not holding my breath, because this is so rare, I don't think folks are understanding what they're really looking at here. I got time. They see the image only, and are VERY quick to throw it into the pile of "commercial posters." Their mistake.
So, with that say:
Orig. Promotional Movie Poster - NOT COMMERCIAL
E.T. #3 90603
23x34 - folded
Copyright 1982 Universal Studios and distributed by C/C Sales in Chicago.
History of how I acquired the poster:
I was given the poster (not bought) as a child - and I actually received the poster at the mall outside of the theater that I eventually saw the movie at (before the movie came out). I remember I didn't like the poster - LOL - because of two things (keeping in mind I was THIS picky at 6 years old): the poster was folded, and I thought no good poster with any value would have creases (I remember that I literally likened it to nothing more worthy than a magazine advertisement haha; you know, like those posters we could pull out of National Geographic, that were stapled in the center as kids? - and, of course, at 6 years old, what I considered to be "value" is not the same as now - I'm looking back at it now - that's kind of exactly what it was... An advertisement to promote the movie that was coming... get people wondering who this alien is)... so I didn't care about whoever this creature in the poster was - being 6 years old, I had no idea it was promoting a movie - the poster was so mysterious... It didn't even say it was a movie so there I was staring at some ugly alien and had no idea why they handed me it. I literally just folded it back up and stuck it back in the bag and continued to walk around the mall with my mother, who ended up, not long after, taking us back to the theater to see this movie... it was just some random poster of an alien and I was too young to even know what Universal Studios was (as if I bothered to read it). Which was my second reason for hating the poster... What six-year-old would find value in a "nobody?" E.T. was a nobody to me. I thought E.T. was ugly. In fact, it took me till after I saw the movie to actually display the poster on my closet door. There actually was a third reason I wasn't impressed, as well... It wasn't candy! It was a freaking poster and I was 6 years old LOL... Fast forward to my preteen years... ET was just too immature for me, and I tore him down and replaced him with posters of my favorite bands. The poster was heavily abused because it was always being moved around, and then, eventually it got rolled up and thrown into the top of the back of my closet. Where I literally had forgotten about the image, until today, when I was doing some heavy cleaning. So, the poster has literally just been stored unsealed, rolled up, through decades of being knocked around in my closet for just over 20 years. It is because of this, the poster has taken on some good battle scars. These scars (to the best of my awareness) are as follows:
Paper stained with "age" that appears to mostly brownish yellow, only around the borders and on the back.
There is tape in some of the corners on the border and on the back. There is no tape on the image.
There are, of course, the original fold lines: which, I believe are three horizontal and one vertical. And they are very present. And, the majority of fold lines do have whitening. In addition to the whitening, if I hold the poster to the light with the back of the poster facing me, I am able to see light come through in little tiny pinholes (of actual image) in some areas, where the crease was heavy, with only a few actually being very small rips along seams. On top of the original fold lines (3 horizontal, 1 vertical), at one point, I had carelessly folded the poster up, paying absolutely no attention to the original fold pattern, so there are other fold lines as well (kids really have no clue, do they? HaHa). You can tell these were fold lines I carelessly made, because they are random and not straight, unlike the original fold lines which are very uniform holding 90° angles (and I wouldn't be surprised, if an expert really looked into it, that they'll probably be able to prove that they were the original fold lines from when the poster was originally sent out - however they prove it - I'm sure they can do it).
Along the entire border there are a lot of tears that range from a fraction to an inch, or so, in length, with of course battered edges and knicks. I have not really studied this thing in detail, because it's been rolled up for so long, and it's so old, that I don't want to keep pulling it open to examine it.
In addition to the white lines along the seams in the picture area, there are also a ton of white squiggly lines caused by wrinkles and creases, due to 20 years of being knocked around in the back of my closet, forgetting it was even there. To be honest, I can't believe I never just threw the thing away LOL. Nostalgia, I guess... After all it was my first movie and I did cry for E.T.. So, while the image is definitely visible, and you can tell this is ET, no questions asked, the picture itself is disturbed quite a bit. I have been reading up on the grading system from several different buyers and auctioneers and it appears that my posters condition (as far as rating goes) seems to vary anywhere from Fair to even Very Good (which actually shocked me because I thought for sure it was poor... fair at best); with buyers being way more lenient on grading.
Outside of the few extremely minor tears in the image, that I couldn't see just glancing at the poster, and only found when I let light come through, and the nicks and tears on the complete border, the poster is in one full piece and is not falling apart. I cannot speak on whether or not this poster has any stains, like watermarks? Could very well have some tiny watermarks that look the same color as the aging process? I really can't get this poster open enough to really study it due to how strongly it wants to stay curled. And I know that me fighting with it is just going to risk tearing, etc.
If the information is needed: I do know that the poster was given to me (free) prior to the movie running, as a publicity stunt; and that I received the poster at the same mall I saw the movie at, which was what is now the AMC theater in Mission Valley, San Diego, California (which is now a Westfield Mall - and I can't say with certainty that that theater has always been AMC? I actually think it used to be called something else before?). I still live in San Diego, so the poster has been here in our somewhat-dry climate the whole time. As of right now, I intend to just wrap the poster in some cellophane and tape a seal, because I do not have a poster container at this time.
This is about all I know. For all I know, I just totally wasted my time, and yours, as well... but this darn thing has me so intrigued now! Thank you so much for any feedback you can give me about this piece... And I pray that you have a blessed day.
Sincerely,
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I would say that he wrote you quite the COMMERCIAL email. ;D
Gotta say, that email made for a great read, with him trying to explain, almost desperately, why this undersized, commercial ET poster he has, is so rare and valuable.
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With that much effort I would rather believe you are being seriously trolled vs. someone trying so hard to prove their delusional beliefs
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I imagine your reply is "It is commercial." And thats all you wrote.
Looking forward to your and their responses.
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after a few back and forths this was my last and final reply:
It is worthless.
Nothing you do will change that.
I'm sorry if the truth is not what you want to hear, but that is the way it is.
Good luck with it.
Dave
and their final response was a simple "thank you"
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I only watch porn for the movie poster decor I SWEAR.
Seriously, DO NOT click on the link below if hard core porn offends you.
https://www.thumbzilla.com/video/ph59b0be5d9a203/wifey-banged-on-the-couch-swallows-a-big-load
If this is against forum rules I'm terribly sorry. It won't happen again.
Nice posters in the background though :)
is that the one with the Day The Earth Stood Still 6 sh?
there are other videos shot in that home.
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invasion of the body snatchers 6sh, dtess 3sh, and others. They bought a few from us.
Dave
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invasion of the body snatchers 6sh, dtess 3sh, and others. They bought a few from us.
Dave
yeah that place
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See something we have and the price is too much for you? Please email us and make an offer!
cinemasterpieces@gmail.com
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nice description
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322854474180
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Thievin' bastidges. nono
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Another ridiculous email conversation:
THEM: This is xxxxx xxxxxxx. About three weeks ago I sent you a rare 3-D UP movie poster. I have a poster receipt that tells me you got it. I have not heard anything from you. regards, xxxxx.
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US: Hello xxxxxx. Poster was sent to us unsolicited. That is not how we normally operate. If you would have asked us before sending it we would have told you not to send it. I can't see that it has any value. Sorry.
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THEM: I didn’t realize you were a “tourist trap”. I guess that is an education of sorts.
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US: Yup, you got me. I built our website exclusively to trap people into sending us worthless posters.
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This might be my favourite thread on APF at the moment 8)
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Return of the Jedi 1985 re release folded 1sh C9 $430.00
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/001/007/WAT.jpg)
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From:88letty88
To:shutterislandovmp
Sent:Nov-16-17 01:57
eBay
New message from: 88letty88 (6)
It's incredible that eBAy allows so many vendors to sell fake re printed posters. How is it the district Attorney's office isn't involved yet? Incredible. And don't bother writing back saying "No, it's real." The term "real" is highly subjective. Of course it's a "real" poster, just like you are a "real" crook.
88letty88 is still around, and still very amusing. -ShutterislandOVMP
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We just sold our first poster for bitcoin.
Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes.
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Did you introduce Bitcoin as an alternative, or did the buyer suggest this form of transaction?
How did it go?
And why did you do it? Do you dabble in Bitcoins anyway?
Cheers.
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Fascinating. I’d love to hear the particulars as well.
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Yes, I've been in bitcoin and other cryptos since 2013. And no, not a lot. I wish I had bought more.
Yes it went smoothly. I added the option to our website a few months ago. The key thing for me was how do you solve the volatility problem? Bitcoin can fluctuate wildly. We made it so that the final invoice we send must be sent manually after the order is placed and it is only valid for 4 hours after we send it. Then we immediately transfer it to US $.
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Please please not another bitcoin thread.
Let's discuss bitcoins in another thread in the "life, politics and the world" unless there is already a thread entitled "mumbo-jumbo" covering shady hidden financial institutions and their secretive sectarian practices.
Bitcoins-pushers and bitcoins-users are like Bible- or cult-pushers, they will do anything to spread the goodness of their master, the Gold bitcoin; while ensuring the all thing is secret enough and has his own jargon, process, etc. to ensure audience get attracted by this life opportunity to get rich. It is all about mind control, biases and getting audience to catch the small, the old, the kiddy- and the weak fishes; just like cult does - https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201402/why-do-people-join-cults (Yeah, I joined a decentralised sectarian Ponzi scheme!)
We all know the meme - "Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around..." Same applies for Bitcoins. Bitcoin fluctuates more than my penis does. Do I trust my penis, he let me down more than once :)
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let's start calling them peniscoin
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well, there is this:
https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/fucktoken
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Happy new year everyone! ;D
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MAN-WITH-THE-GOLDEN-GUN-007-CineMasterpieces-74-ORIGINAL-MOVIE-POSTER-JAMES-BOND/263433809943?hash=item3d55e0f017:g:r1wAAOSwnMBaWVz8
Oh dear dear dear....!!
Answers on a postcard please as to what is wrong here.
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Our new website is now live!
https://www.cinemasterpieces.com/
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CASABLANCA on Pawn Stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4PJEsxMyA&feature=youtu.be
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Nice. I’ll never understand the appeal of these shows and why people want to be filmed, but I like the fact that she didn’t sell it to that guy.
He needs to make $10k out of it... hahaha... None for you. She can send it to an auction house herself. Cut the middle man and his $10k stamp.
T
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Nice. I’ll never understand the appeal of these shows and why people want to be filmed, but I like the fact that she didn’t sell it to that guy.
He needs to make $10k out of it... hahaha... None for you. She can send it to an auction house herself. Cut the middle man and his $10k stamp.
T
Let alone the "$30K in fees" that he's going to have to pay to the auction house. imbecile.gif
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You’re right, I didn’t even think of that. What a shyster.
T
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Ah, capitalism at work. Buy low, sell high. Currently anything decent or rare is going through the roof so she shouldn't have any problem moving it for a good price, linen backed or not. She's probably getting ready to call Heritage or Bruce right now.
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Really?
You all think this poster belonged to the lady and that everything wasn't set up ahead of time by Dave?
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Is Dave on the video? Sorry, I don't know what he looks like. Is it his poster?
T
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Yes that's Dave. He looks like a good Canadian.
Anyways Dave my thoughts were, aren't repros possible at 41 x 27? How can you confirm authenticity without taking it out of the frame, and moreover, value, without confirming whether its been mounted with glue?
Finally how come there wasn't a hot chick in white pants "shopping" in the background, which is why we all watch the show in the first place
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Vick, you didnt think the "plastic babe" that brought the poster in, was hot enough? pcorn ;D
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ok ok she was nice... wasn't Rich dating her last year?
anyways that Casablanca poster though has to be one of the plainest 100K + posters around.
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ok ok she was nice... wasn't Rich dating her last year?
anyways that Casablanca poster though has to be one of the plainest 100K + posters around.
It is amazing what that style OS goes for, that's for sure..but Casablanca is Casablanca. (cha-ching)
And with it looking so smooth and pristine in that frame, I'm guessing it was (minimally) linen backed, with maybe some light fold touch ups?
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Hi Crazy Vick.
They don't have time to show everything. We examined it outside the frame.
I look Canadian?
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I am sure no one would mind if you link to it on your site
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Hi Crazy Vick.
They don't have time to show everything. We examined it outside the frame.
I look Canadian?
A Canadian Poster Terrorist to be clear 8)
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I am sure no one would mind if you link to it on your site
If Dave has the poster on consignment...(fill in the rest)
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We actually have two Casablanca one sheets in stock. Both are ours, not on consignment.
and omg I forgot about the canadian poster terrorists!
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I look Canadian?
...friendly-looking, casual with a bit of scruffy, a healthy beer mid-section...you'd fit right in. ;D
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...friendly-looking, casual with a bit of scruffy, a healthy beer mid-section...you'd fit right in. ;D
Really? I have a whole new perspective on Canadians.
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/05/17/woman-arrested-after-defecating-on-floor-tim-hortons-restaurant-flinging-feces-at-clerk.html
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Really?
You all think this poster belonged to the lady and that everything wasn't set up ahead of time by Dave?
I believe that’s her poster right Dave? And yes the just don’t film the store and Hope cool stuff comes in the door. They make arrangements to have filming days and book all the people trying to sell their stuff. Which is deal is already negotiated before filming starts. And maybe already authenticated ahead of time by Dave and reframed?
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Shows like Pawn Stars are scripted and directed from beginning to end. Nothing happens by chance, including the sales/deals (or not) that are shown as happening right then and there.
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Some segments are just as real as the Kardashians, some are not. Interpret that however you'd like. 8)
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Pick any 'reality' show and google it for contestant comments. None are all that 'real' it seems.
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Those that think these shows are on-the-spot, "as they happen" slices of life, are also the same demographic that pro wrestling caters to, and has, for decades.
And for those that dont know how this kind of TV works or is produced, a simple Google search shall reveal all. <OO
They are directed, written and edited to snag the most viewers (= RATINGS).
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Those that think these shows are on-the-spot, "as they happen" slices of life, are also the same demographic that pro wrestling caters to, and has, for decades.
And for those that dont know how this kind of TV works or is produced, a simple Google search shall reveal all. <OO
They are directed, written and edited to snag the most viewers (= RATINGS).
Great. Another reason to not watch them. Total waste of time.
T
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Someone just sent us this hoard of mint unused Star Wars posters. 6 three sheets, 5 style D one sheets, 4 small and 4 large lobby card sets. It is amazing what is still out there undiscovered!
https://www.cinemasterpieces.com/52017/swhoard1.jpg
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I’m not surprised. A lot of collectors, myself included, have multiple copies of the same poster. You buy one, and then another one comes up at a pretty good price, so you buy it again, and then another one even cheaper, and just like that you have 5 copies. And then one day you send them to Dave :)
T
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Well, I guess it had to happen sooner or later. We bought posters that were stolen. We are out $850.00. We bought them last week and a dealer we know contacted us and told us they were his. We are sending them back to him tomorrow. Bummer for us, but it could have been worse. They were two Amoco gas station posters from the 50's and two James Bond re release Italian 2 sheets. We have the thiefs name, phone number, email address and address. I have no idea if the law will catch up with him or not.
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Well, I guess it had to happen sooner or later. We bought posters that were stolen. We are out $850.00. We bought them last week and a dealer we know contacted us and told us they were his. We are sending them back to him tomorrow. Bummer for us, but it could have been worse. They were two Amoco gas station posters from the 50's and two James Bond re release Italian 2 sheets. We have the thiefs name, phone number, email address and address. I have no idea if the law will catch up with him or not.
Hi David, I am curious how insurance might cover that, if at all? You sound like you found out quickly, though what if it was say a year or more later? Okie
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this story is developing. tune it later :)
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How do you know these posters were stolen and belong to whoever says is a victim of said theft? I mean, were the posters stamped? Aren't posters all the same? And how did he/she even know you had said posters?
T
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I have a Cinemasterpiece conversation
I had a poster and Dave saw it. He said "Let me have that. I'll list it on my site for $10,000 and I bet you someone will make an offer on it".
well, after about a year or so, Dave sold it, for ten grand
Ha I posted it for sale, I never would have posted that price..
Kudos to Dave..
I highly recommend Dave
Dave!
!!!!!!
sm1 cheers
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Thanks Rich!!
The owner had four posters stolen when someone had bought them from him with a stolen credit card. I listed two of them on ebay and the owner saw them immediately. They are rare amoco posters. They had his penciled stock numbers on the linen border. I had not even listed the other two stolen James Bond posters when he called me and asked if I had bought the same exact four posters recently.
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I have the thiefs name, address, phone number and email address. So I figured....what the hell, I'll give him a call. Left him a voicemail. He calls me back. I said listen....I know these posters were stolen. As I continue talking he repeats about 10 times talking over me "they are not stolen, I did not steal them". I then told him look....all I want is my money back. I don't care what you did, all I want is my paypal payment refunded. I have your name, address and phone number and I won't turn you over to the police if I get my money back. It's a simple choice. Silence for about 20 seconds and then he says "well I can't do it now because PayPal is closed". I informed him that paypal never closes, so just sign on and refund the payment. He says he'll call me back. 5 minutes later he calls back and says he has refunded the payment. I check my paypal account and it was true. I got my money back. He never admitted they were stolen.
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At any time did they ask for the posters back?
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nope.
They have been sent back to the dealer/owner.
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Well, well.
That was a result!
Fair play David.
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We've had more than a few conversations this year that go something like this:
"Will you combine shipping with the other poster I just won on eBay?"
"Sure, which item did you win?"
"We won item number xxxxxxxxxxxxx."
"I'm sorry, we are not the seller of that poster. We can not combine shipping with a poster we did not sell to you."
Some people have no idea how eBay works. I guess they think everything is stored in some giant warehouse like Amazon.
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Sometimes the back is just as interesting as the front.
(https://www.cinemasterpieces.com/52017/beastthem.jpg)
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Sometimes the back is just as interesting as the front.
(https://www.cinemasterpieces.com/52017/beastthem.jpg)
before I consider buying it, is it listed as a Beast poster (looking for it) or Them (don't care)
;D
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The poster has been flipped, top to bottom too.