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Common Poster Subjects => Restoration => Topic started by: Neo on September 02, 2015, 10:11:18 PM
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Steve will love this one!! It looks like an excellent job. He is really good, he restored my Casa WC. Congrats Brando !
Thanks, Rosa. It seems like he does good work, but on this one, there are definitely a few things that I don't know what went wrong.
Good to hear that your Casablanca card turned out well. It is a real beaut.
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Thanks, Rosa. It seems like he does good work, but on this one, there are definitely a few things that I don't know what went wrong.
Good to hear that your Casablanca card turned out well. It is a real beaut.
wow, I never would have guessed that would end up being loved SO much.
what do you mean above (in bold)?
PS- JM did one of my posters, it is a superb job.
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wow, I never would have guessed that would end up being loved SO much.
what do you mean above (in bold)?
PS- JM did one of my posters, it is a superb job.
Why is that? It's a rad movie, and the German poster is the best IMO and pretty darn rare. Since there are probably not any around that are not folded, I wanted to restore it.
He did a good job on the fold lines, and the backing for the most part, but there are few things post-restoration that were not there when I sent it in. In the title, there's a big crease, about 10 inches long, most of which was touched up. On the center, right side, there is another touch up mark that is a few inches long, and as you can see in the pre-resto photo, there was nothing to touch up in that area, so I don't know what happened there, either. There are a few air bubbles. Overall it's ok.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01448_zpswzmedkjz.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/DSC01448_zpswzmedkjz.jpg.html)
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Brandon, did u send him that close up pic of that post restore crease and ask what happened there? I would not be a happy camper, at all, if that had come back to me that way, especially since it wasn't there to begin with. Grrrrrr.
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haha, yeah ok. I'm glad you got it even more then.
re the other issues, that is odd. I have just the Ship of wanted Men (probably somewhere in this thread) he did and its as good a resto job as I have seen, and was more to work on. I'm wondering if the german paper stock being different- heavier and slight gloss, especially compared to older US material - makes it different/harder to work with (?) .
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/posterfreak/ZZZZZZ/ZpersonalCollection/ShipOfWantedMen.jpg)
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Brandon, did u send him that close up pic of that post restore crease and ask what happened there? I would not be a happy camper, at all, if that had come back to me that way, especially since it wasn't there to begin with. Grrrrrr.
Earlier today, I was just happy to receive it. It was in a state of limbo for a week after it was shipped, and several days past the expected delivery date, with no tracking info. available the entire time, and then the day after a claim was filed, it was ready for pick up at the post office.
Yeah, it's annoying to get something returned with damage like that.
Here's the other big touch up mark:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg.html)
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Earlier today, I was just happy to receive it. It was in a state of limbo for a week after it was shipped, and several days past the expected delivery date, with no tracking info. available the entire time, and then the day after a claim was filed, it was ready for pick up at the post office.
Yeah, it's annoying to get something returned with damage like that.
Here's the other big touch up mark:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg.html)
That almost looks like he just used a green water color marker to fill in (i'm guessing) a scratch or other mark on the paper? I'd send him those c/u pics, and ask for a partial refund... ASAP.
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I dont recall any parts like this that needed touching up (just fold lines really) so thats odd for sure.
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haha, yeah ok. I'm glad you got it even more then.
re the other issues, that is odd. I have just the Ship of wanted Men (probably somewhere in this thread) he did and its as good a resto job as I have seen, and was more to work on. I'm wondering if the german paper stock being different- heavier and slight gloss, especially compared to older US material - makes it different/harder to work with (?) .
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/posterfreak/ZZZZZZ/ZpersonalCollection/ShipOfWantedMen.jpg)
cheers
It's not such a different stock than most posters, so I can't imagine that it would be much more difficult to work with.
That one is very cool, and looks like good work.
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I dont recall any parts like this that needed touching up (just fold lines really) so thats odd for sure.
Yeah, there weren't any scratches or anything needed touching up, when I sent it in.
That almost looks like he just used a green water color marker to fill in (i'm guessing) a scratch or other mark on the paper? I'd send him those c/u pics, and ask for a partial refund... ASAP.
I don't know what I'm going to do about it, but thanks for the advice. These are pretty darn rare, so it's not like I can just pick up another one right now, especially in similar condition.
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Yeah, there weren't any scratches or anything needed touching up, when I sent it in.
I don't know what I'm going to do about it, but thanks for the advice. These are pretty darn rare, so it's not like I can just pick up another one right now, especially in similar condition.
So JM not only creased your poster with a less than stellar backing job, when laying it down, but also caused those scratches that he then had to retouch?? UGH... and for something not that easy to obtain? I feel for you Brandon and hope he makes it right for you.
You paid good money and that job is a bit of a let down, not to mention that he did damage to your poster, on top of it all. moron1
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I'd be disappointed too Neo and wouldn't use them again. Does look like green marker pen and regardless should be restoration on the line only with fine brush not like the additional boundary of Territorial waters around a country.
Anyway I suggest people won't notice as the main focus are what's bobbing in the surf thumbsup.gif
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I'd be disappointed too Neo and wouldn't use them again. Does look like green marker pen and regardless should be restoration on the line only with fine brush not like the additional boundary of Territorial waters around a country.
Anyway I suggest people won't notice as the main focus are what's bobbing in the surf thumbsup.gif
No scratches there....... thumbup
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No scratches there....... thumbup
Not yet
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Not yet
;D
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My suspicion is that Jaime did not work on that poster himself. It was likely someone else at his studio. They are many examples of work that was done specifically by Jaime and it is nearly always extremely well done. That said, 'more modern, newer paper stock' posters are notoriously more difficult to restore to a level where the restoration is invisible to begin with. An unfortunate situation for sure. I would not be all that happy overall either :-[
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And the thing is.. that crease thru the yellow credits has nothing to do with the paper stock or it being more modern paper. That issue is just poor workmanship and someone who was not paying careful attention. >:(
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I'd be disappointed too Neo and wouldn't use them again. Does look like green marker pen and regardless should be restoration on the line only with fine brush not like the additional boundary of Territorial waters around a country.
Anyway I suggest people won't notice as the main focus are what's bobbing in the surf thumbsup.gif
Thanks for your insight.
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My suspicion is that Jaime did not work on that poster himself. It was likely someone else at his studio. They are many examples of work that was done specifically by Jaime and it is nearly always extremely well done. That said, 'more modern, newer paper stock' posters are notoriously more difficult to restore to a level where the restoration is invisible to begin with. An unfortunate situation for sure. I would not be all that happy overall either :-[
Regardless of whether he or an employee did the work, I sent it to him, thus it's his name on the quality of work. The bottom line is that it should have been treated with more care. I have seen numerous posters that are of a similar age, and many that are much newer, glossier, etc. that have much better work, and of course have not had any damage like that. I'm not completely unhappy with it, but I did file a PayPal claim for a partial refund, as it is clearly damaged.
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Regardless of whether he or an employee did the work, I sent it to him, thus it's his name on the quality of work. The bottom line is that it should have been treated with more care. I have seen numerous posters that are of a similar age, and many that are much newer, glossier, etc. that have much better work, and of course have not had any damage like that. I'm not completely unhappy with it, but I did file a PayPal claim for a partial refund, as it is clearly damaged.
I hope you get the resolve and partial refund that you deserve, Brandon. That's the least he can do, as you sent your poster to him in good faith and he failed in exercising the care needed--even more so if one of his associates did the work, and he allowed it to be sent off to you, without giving it "the once over" to make sure it was up to his own standards.
Good luck on this. Im sure you will prevail. cheers
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Regardless of whether he or an employee did the work, I sent it to him, thus it's his name on the quality of work. The bottom line is that it should have been treated with more care. I have seen numerous posters that are of a similar age, and many that are much newer, glossier, etc. that have much better work, and of course have not had any damage like that. I'm not completely unhappy with it, but I did file a PayPal claim for a partial refund, as it is clearly damaged.
Well put. Well done. I regard him as one of the best out there. But clearly even the best have bad days. Tho i suspect Chris is right. Either way. This is a great poster. Enjoy it!
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Why is that? It's a rad movie, and the German poster is the best IMO and pretty darn rare. Since there are probably not any around that are not folded, I wanted to restore it.
He did a good job on the fold lines, and the backing for the most part, but there are few things post-restoration that were not there when I sent it in. In the title, there's a big crease, about 10 inches long, most of which was touched up. On the center, right side, there is another touch up mark that is a few inches long, and as you can see in the pre-resto photo, there was nothing to touch up in that area, so I don't know what happened there, either. There are a few air bubbles. Overall it's ok.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01448_zpswzmedkjz.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/DSC01448_zpswzmedkjz.jpg.html)
This can happen if when laying it down it is shifted and then pressed down... Or it is flattened out from the edges in one spot and then center out from the other direction. This didn't occur during the wash...
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Earlier today, I was just happy to receive it. It was in a state of limbo for a week after it was shipped, and several days past the expected delivery date, with no tracking info. available the entire time, and then the day after a claim was filed, it was ready for pick up at the post office.
Yeah, it's annoying to get something returned with damage like that.
Here's the other big touch up mark:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/touchup_zpsgwra6kv3.jpg.html)
I am guilty of dinging a poster once it was drying. I have a 56" straight edge and as I was holding it backing up, it scratched one of my posters. I would think it happens...
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Regardless of whether he or an employee did the work, I sent it to him, thus it's his name on the quality of work. The bottom line is that it should have been treated with more care.
I agree - was just trying to provide an explanation for why the work is not up to the standards we have seen on other posters sent to his studio - i.e. it was probably not the "master's hand" that worked on it. Of course, ultimately, if this is the case it still reflects very poorly on Jaime directly.
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Thanks for the input, y'all.
I am guilty of dinging a poster once it was drying. I have a 56" straight edge and as I was holding it backing up, it scratched one of my posters. I would think it happens...
I understand that accidents happen, but someone has to be held accountable. If a guy came to my shop for an oil change, and I didn't put a fender cover on the fender and slammed an oil filter wrench or whatever on it and put a huge scratch on the car, then just put a big glob of touch up paint on it, there would obviously be an issue. Further, I have a feeling that there were some shenanigans, as I asked them to send me a photo of the restoration, and the woman I spoke with said "sure" and then they sent the invoice and had it packaged before they could take a photo of it. Maybe they genuinely forgot, or maybe they didn't want to send me a photo showing the damages they caused, from the huge crease, to that mark, etc.
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I agree - was just trying to provide an explanation for why the work is not up to the standards we have seen on other posters sent to his studio - i.e. it was probably not the "master's hand" that worked on it. Of course, ultimately, if this is the case it still reflects very poorly on Jaime directly.
As others have said, accidents happen, if that's the case. Adding to that, I think it's unreasonable to blindly assume it was not JM himself who did the work. For all we know, he may have had amazing artists do the great work on any number of the good restorations that have left his shop, and depending on who's there any given day, the quality of the work will vary.
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I understand that accidents happen, but someone has to be held accountable. If a guy came to my shop for an oil change, and I didn't put a fender cover on the fender and slammed an oil filter wrench or whatever on it and put a huge scratch on the car, then just put a big glob of touch up paint on it, there would obviously be an issue.
Absolutely. Accidents happen, sometimes by no negligence but you still need to assume responsibility if you damage a piece while in your possession.
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And the thing too, Brandon... that crease that was created when the poster was layed to the masa paper and linen would have been seen by ANYONE who was working on it. It's not as though it's a 1/4" minor crease, but looks to be several inches long and in 2 different areas. One would have to be blind not to have seen that when looking at the backing job right after it was completed. I dont have a doubt that it was seen and they simply decided to "leave it" as is. That is truly a poor sign of quality workmanship, regardless of who was doing the work in his studio. And if it was another person doing the backing, does JM NOT look at all pieces before they are shipped, to insure his level of quality?? Seems not.
And that green marker over yet that OTHER scratch that they caused.. is inexcusable. That touch up is about one would expect to see from Posterfix.
Maybe if your poster had been a UNI horror item, he would have taken more care. :P
Let's hope you get that partial refund and that he writes (or calls) you and explains these mishaps and why your poster was sent back to you in that state.
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Thanks for the input, y'all.
I understand that accidents happen, but someone has to be held accountable. If a guy came to my shop for an oil change, and I didn't put a fender cover on the fender and slammed an oil filter wrench or whatever on it and put a huge scratch on the car, then just put a big glob of touch up paint on it, there would obviously be an issue. Further, I have a feeling that there were some shenanigans, as I asked them to send me a photo of the restoration, and the woman I spoke with said "sure" and then they sent the invoice and had it packaged before they could take a photo of it. Maybe they genuinely forgot, or maybe they didn't want to send me a photo showing the damages they caused, from the huge crease, to that mark, etc.
Or at least cover it up so you can't tell... ;)
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As others have said, accidents happen, if that's the case. Adding to that, I think it's unreasonable to blindly assume it was not JM himself who did the work. For all we know, he may have had amazing artists do the great work on any number of the good restorations that have left his shop, and depending on who's there any given day, the quality of the work will vary.
Why don't you ask him? He took your money and you have that right
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It may be nothing, but both restos looked bleached, is that something one would normally expect ?
Stew
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And the thing too, Brandon... that crease that was created when the poster was layed to the masa paper and linen would have been seen by ANYONE who was working on it. It's not as though it's a 1/4" minor crease, but looks to be several inches long and in 2 different areas. One would have to be blind not to have seen that when looking at the backing job right after it was completed. I dont have a doubt that it was seen and they simply decided to "leave it" as is. That is truly a poor sign of quality workmanship, regardless of who was doing the work in his studio. And if it was another person doing the backing, does JM NOT look at all pieces before they are shipped, to insure his level of quality?? Seems not.
And that green marker over yet that OTHER scratch that they caused.. is inexcusable. That touch up is about one would expect to see from Posterfix.
Maybe if your poster had been a UNI horror item, he would have taken more care. :P
It's about a 10 inch crease, and it was touched up almost the entire length. You can see the white spots where it was not touched up.
Yeah, the other scratch or whatever, and subsequent touch up are just as bad.
Let's hope you get that partial refund and that he writes (or calls) you and explains these mishaps and why your poster was sent back to you in that state.
I'm leaving it in the hands of PayPal. The proof is clear, with the before and after photos, showing how it was when I sent it, and the damage after.
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It may be nothing, but both restos looked bleached, is that something one would normally expect ?
Stew
It's tough to tell in photos the actual colors. There are different variables, such as the lighting, camera, camera settings, software the photos are downloaded and uploaded with, etc.
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Jeezum crow.
What a buzzkill.
Brandon, I'd demand that it be repaired or replaced.
You're totally within your rights.
And this shipping w/out tracking BS on a high-value item is inexcusable.
Dude is gonna ruin his rep with posts like this.
Tell him the poster world is waiting for his next move.
Seriously.
I feel badly for you and what they've done to that poster.
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Jeezum crow.
What a buzzkill.
Brandon, I'd demand that it be repaired or replaced.
You're totally within your rights.
And this shipping w/out tracking BS on a high-value item is inexcusable.
Dude is gonna ruin his rep with posts like this.
Tell him the poster world is waiting for his next move.
Seriously.
I feel badly for you and what they've done to that poster.
Ted - I understand completely what you're saying and yes in a perfect world it would mean something when "an average customer" like you or I or Brandon does not get top notch work back for our money but, unfortunately, in the case of Jaime there is likely little worry on his end.
He has the HUGE Heritage contract after all. As far as I know he probably gets the majority of his work from HA and, as such, that's where his priorities lie...again I am just speculating but it is speculation with some evidence to back it up...
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Me no buy no more Heritage linenbacked posters
This is not conservation, this is vandalism, desecration, destruction of our heritage
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Me no buy no more Heritage linenbacked posters
This is not conservation, this is vandalism, desecration, destruction of our heritage
Come on Steve - the boobs were conserved nicely!
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If his priority and care are with the work he does for HA, then he should accept NO other work, if doing half ass crap like he did to Brandon's poster is the result.... PERIOD!
One might have thought his involvement in the Haggard fakes issue would have made him more respectful of other people's property. Seems not. What, with that kind of sloppiness, no tracking number, no return call etc.
FAR from the best, IMO, when all the elements are added up. moron1
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Jeezum crow.
What a buzzkill.
Brandon, I'd demand that it be repaired or replaced.
You're totally within your rights.
And this shipping w/out tracking BS on a high-value item is inexcusable.
Dude is gonna ruin his rep with posts like this.
Tell him the poster world is waiting for his next move.
Seriously.
I feel badly for you and what they've done to that poster.
A buzzkill, indeed.
I don't want to drag this thread down any more, so I'll put my whole experience with Jaime Mendez Restoration in the Poster Restorers, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly thread, as I would certainly place restoration by JM among the BAD there. http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg185270.html#msg185270 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg185270.html#msg185270)
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A buzzkill, indeed.
I don't want to drag this thread down any more, so I'll put my whole experience with Jaime Mendez Restoration in the Poster Restorers, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly thread, as I would certainly place restoration by JM among the BAD there. http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg185270.html#msg185270 (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg185270.html#msg185270)
Spot on, Brandon, spot on!
cheers
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Me no buy no more Heritage linenbacked posters
This is not conservation, this is vandalism, desecration, destruction of our heritage
^ What Steve said.
(But then again, I do not buy linenbacked posters)
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This one just arrived. I will give credit to JMR for addressing all of the problem areas, from their previous work, and they did a much better job this time.
Overall, everything is good now, and I'm stoked to have this in my humble collection.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg.html)
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Very happy for you.
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Thanks, Rosa.
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Glad to see they left her topless after all that ;)
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This one just arrived. I will give credit to JMR for addressing all of the problem areas, from their previous work, and they did a much better job this time.
Overall, everything is good now, and I'm stoked to have this in my humble collection.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg.html)
Congrats on the redo, Brandon. How do those particular areas now look? (not meaning the creases, that would have been resolved with the redone backing).
Sounds like u are happy with it. Good for you! cheers
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Thanks, Chris and Jeff.
Jeff, all the issues I mentioned with the first backing/resto. are much better now. Mr. Castillo was able to blend the large scratch, fold lines, and huge crease touch-ups, much better than whoever did the work the first time. It's all still visible, but not from like 10 feet away, as it all was before.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/Posters/DSC01494.1JPG_zpssulq6qtx.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/Posters/DSC01494.1JPG_zpssulq6qtx.jpg.html)
I'm not the kind of person to cry over spilled milk, so overall, I'm happy with it. It's rad, and I'm fortunate to have it in my humble collection.
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Brandon...
The bottom line is... they made good, re-did the sloppy work and delivered to your satisfaction.
I'm happy that you are stoked! It looks really good!!
cheers
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That poster has a story to tell, even before the linen backing, my very good friend asked me years ago to get him one AT ANY COST, I got it for him, I emailed repeatedly I had it, where do I send it? He is in Sydney and I don't have his address anymore, anyway he never replied, he replied to OTHER EMAILS, but would never answer that question, seriously he used to BEG me to find him one, so who knows what happened, maybe he knew it had a curse.
Anyway, it found a home where it is wanted finally.
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That poster has a story to tell, even before the linen backing, my very good friend asked me years ago to get him one AT ANY COST, I got it for him, I emailed repeatedly I had it, where do I send it? He is in Sydney and I don't have his address anymore, anyway he never replied, he replied to OTHER EMAILS, but would never answer that question, seriously he used to BEG me to find him one, so who knows what happened, maybe he knew it had a curse.
Interesting. I can't imagine what changed his mind. As you said, maybe he has a sixth sense, but hopefully the curse has run its course. girly2.gif
Anyway, it found a home where it is wanted finally.
It is definitely one of my favorites.
cheers
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This one just arrived. I will give credit to JMR for addressing all of the problem areas, from their previous work, and they did a much better job this time.
Overall, everything is good now, and I'm stoked to have this in my humble collection.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/NeoLoco80/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/NeoLoco80/media/DSC01493_zpsris8srnt.jpg.html)
Glad this worked out, Brandon.
Its a cool poster and looks a helluva lot better than the last time around.
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Thanks, Ted.
Yeah, it's better, aside from the two new, large scratches, that I mentioned here (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg187912.html#msg187912). On the bright side, they did a better job blending these, and the saga has concluded.
cheers
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Thanks, Ted.
Yeah, it's better, aside from the two new, large scratches, that I mentioned here (http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,1624.msg187912.html#msg187912). On the bright side, they did a better job blending these, and the saga has concluded.
cheers
I just saw the damage.
I thought they had done right by you but that isn't the case.
Sorry, Brandon.
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I just saw the damage.
I thought they had done right by you but that isn't the case.
Sorry, Brandon.
No worries, brother. I kinda expected things to not go perfect on the second run with them.
It's still a rad poster, with some new scars, and of course the whole experience was a learning lesson.
Sorry to derail this thread with this whole situation. If someone wants to move all these posts into a new thread about my JMR experience, that would be cool.
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This deserves its own thread.
Thanks to the moderator for putting the posts from the other thread here.
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Overall, everything is good now, and I'm stoked to have this in my humble collection.
Great to hear this ordeal turned positive for you! Would have been a total bummer otherwise... Congrats bud.
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Great to hear this ordeal turned positive for you! Would have been a total bummer otherwise... Congrats bud.
I wouldn't say it necessarily turned out positive, in the sense that JMR could not turn back the clock and remove the damages they did, and their second work added some new damages. But to give them credit, they did cover them up better.
One could make any situation somewhat positive. It's a state of mind. I made the decision to not be pissy about this.
Anyway, thanks, brother.