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Common Poster Subjects => Authentication => Topic started by: Undead on December 26, 2018, 11:10:44 PM
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This one is for a future birthday present for my wife who's favorite movie, Disney that is, is Snow White.
I have read a bunch of info on decoding eirin marks and this one makes no sense to me. The poster is a Snow White STB. Date unknown but based on the paper and sheen, it is mid/late 60's to early/mid 70's. The imagry used does not appear to match any other poster released in another format and I cannot find any otehr images of an SW STB. The mark though I've tried I do not know how to decode as it does not seem to match any of the coding methods that I am aware of. Any help identifying the year would be greatly appreciated.
(http://undead.net/images/posters/sw_eirin_mark.jpg)
(http://undead.net/images/posters/snow_white_japanese_stb.jpg)
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A full image of the poster would also be helpful. ;)
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Yup, working on that. Will likely be up tonight.
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What's the mark/logo right above the Eirin mark?
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It's a magnet.
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Let me stress that I do not consider this to be a definitive answer but ....
A Japanese dubbed version of Snow White was released in 1958 and there was a re-release in 1980.
The poster you have clearly says it is a Japanese dubbed version on the left-hand side in blue ink.
The eirin mark 30055, the "55" could refer to the Japanese year "Showa 55" which equals 1980.
Most eirin marks put the year first, for example, the Star Wars eirin is 53009, the 53 refers to Showa 53 which equals 1978, the year Star Wars was first released in Japan.
Maybe the Eirin organization changed the formatting.
One of these sold a few weeks ago on Yahoo Japan for about $70.00
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I just realized how basic my answer was ... you know all that stuff I said. Doh.gif Sorry.
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One of these sold a few weeks ago on Yahoo Japan for about $70.00
Thanks for your input. This is the one that sold.
Never put much thought into using the 55 as the year, if it is then yes it would be 1980 and everything else would fit nicely. If we reverse the numbers that would be an impressive 300 films minimum released in 1980 if my understanding is correct. I was also under the impression though that STB's were no longer printed after the mid/late 70's.
At the same time, US three sheets were out by the very early 80's yet they were still printed in limited quantities by specialty printers into at least into the mid 80's. The Jedi three and six sheets are a good example. Wonder if this could be a later than normal printing with different mark due to printer difference?
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Perhaps it is a special printing, the characters on the left in black ink say that this is a:
Ministry of Education and Culture Selection
Youth Film Council Selection
Film Appreciation Council Recommendation
Not very "Hollywood" ....
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Never put much thought into using the 55 as the year, if it is then yes it would be 1980 and everything else would fit nicely. If we reverse the numbers that would be an impressive 300 films minimum released in 1980 if my understanding is correct.
But that 300 refers to films reviewed by the Eirin organization which would include both Japanese and foreign productions which maybe is not implausible.
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This is a late 60s (most likely 1967) re-release.
Disney changed the font/style of the "Snow White" logo with every release, and this matches the 1967 one perfectly (note how the "H" in "White" opens into the "W".
The dwarfs are also the same as used on the '67 paper (and yes, Japan used them for the '50 release, but no one else did, and it was used in many countries in '67).
The 1980 release is entirely different, and as stated prior, there were no tatekans produced then.
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I absolutely defer to Crowzilla. He knows much better than I do notworthy.gif!!
I'll just add, it's strange that there's no information about the Japanese distributor on the poster.
Other releases have shown that it was distributed by Toei etc...
Hi Ho Hi Ho, it's off to the stove I go (it's dinner time in Japan right now).
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Thanks to Armin for pointing out the Japanese Wikipedia page for Snow White which shows that there was a 1969 release in Japan.
That release was also distributed by Beuna Vista, which is why you don't see any distributor markings like for the 1958 release by Daiei*, 1980 Toei release, or the 1985 Toho one.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E9%9B%AA%E5%A7%AB_(1937%E5%B9%B4%E3%81%AE%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BB) (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E9%9B%AA%E5%A7%AB_(1937%E5%B9%B4%E3%81%AE%E6%98%A0%E7%94%BB))
* emovie sold a Daiei 1958 release as a 1950 original, http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/10959975.html, which despite their labeling, is definitely a 1958 re-release with the large bold red block stating Japanese dubbed)
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Alright Armin! He's the man for Japanese authentication thumbsup.gif
So there's no distributor credit because Buena Vista is a subsidiary of Disney. Got it!
Cheers :)
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But the question still remains, how is the eirin mark to be read .... "30055"?
Showa 30 = 1955, Heisei 30 = 2018, Showa 55 = 1980.....
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Not sure about the mysterious Eirin mark — but the English title on your poster matches the title style of the late 60s US re-release posters.
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But the question still remains, how is the eirin mark to be read .... "30055"?
Showa 30 = 1955, Heisei 30 = 2018, Showa 55 = 1980.....
just a mistake. it happens sometimes
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This is a late 60s (most likely 1967) re-release.
Disney changed the font/style of the "Snow White" logo with every release, and this matches the 1967 one perfectly (note how the "H" in "White" opens into the "W".
The dwarfs are also the same as used on the '67 paper (and yes, Japan used them for the '50 release, but no one else did, and it was used in many countries in '67).
The 1980 release is entirely different, and as stated prior, there were no tatekans produced then.
Great info, Sean and Armin. thumbsup.gif
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I see Bruce monitors the forum often, as the information in their database has already been updated to show that the poster is a 1958 re-release (though it doesn't say they sold it as an original release).
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Great info from a bunch of folks. Though I do not see a guaranteed correct answer, the most plausible in my opinion is that is the 1969 re-release.
Thanks all!