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Title: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 04:03:15 AM
I thought it might be interesting to try and locate images of original poster art or photos and the resulting poster created from it, and how the art might have been added to, altered or amended in the process.

Here are a few i located:

The Face Behind the Mask (Columbia, 1941); Italian art by Anselmo Ballester:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/ballester-2-faces-pics_zpsf4a68b5f.jpg)




The Night Walker (William Castle Prod., 1964); art by Reynold Brown:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/nightwalkerart_zpsa91710a4.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/nightwalk_zps785fabfa.jpg)





Not original art, but rather the photo used of Carole Lombard, for which the art of the US OS, for her film, Supernatural (Paramount, 1933), was created from:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/supernatural-carol-lombard_zpsdd46785d.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/supernatural_zps4b05294e.jpg)



Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mirosae on March 09, 2013, 05:52:45 AM
Great topic and great pics!  What an incredible pic the one for Carole Lombard! ;D
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: CSM on March 09, 2013, 09:44:42 AM
Man, Supernatural is such an awesome poster
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: brude on March 09, 2013, 07:36:50 PM
Man, Supernatural is such an awesome poster

+1.

Great idea for a thread.
 cheers
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 09, 2013, 09:18:06 PM
 
What could be the original artwork for the 6 sheet that was created for the 1940/41 release of Gone With The Wind. The piece measures 32 x 43.5 inches and is done on heavy illustration board. Ive placed an image of the actual 6 sheet below, for comparison. Sure looks to be the art that was utlilized, IMO.  clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/GWTWart_zpsd9e334b5.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/gwtw6sht_zps7e700619.jpg)



Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: 110x75 on March 09, 2013, 11:46:51 PM
I'll add a favourite of mine  ;)

original still (middle right)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Strange-World-Angelica-Hauf-Alexander-Carlos-7-Original-Photos-Jungle-Girl-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/jawAAOxyzHxRMDLJ/$%28KGrHqYOKocFEWrIsTr+BRMDLILtYw~~60_57.JPG)

arg one sheet

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/DSC05205.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: 110x75 on March 09, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
Obras maestras del terror, original still

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/MH-03.jpg)

US one sheet

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y316/110x75/Collection%20-%20Argentinean%20Horror/1960-ObrasMaestrasdelTerror-US1sh-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: brude on March 10, 2013, 12:17:10 AM
The great Reynold Brown.

(http://www.muttpop.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/2387-Reynold-Brown_5_original.jpg)

From Reynold Brown: A Life in Pictures.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: 50s on March 10, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
From Reynold Brown: A Life in Pictures.

Love the book, the posters, and fantastic orgies

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: crowzilla on March 10, 2013, 05:42:25 PM
What could be the original artwork for the 6 sheet that was created for the 1940/41 release of Gone With The Wind. The piece measures 32 x 43.5 inches and is done on heavy illustration board. Ive placed an image of the actual 6 sheet below, for comparison. Sure looks to be the art that was utlilized, IMO.  clap

I will go out on a limb and say this is NOT the original artwork for the poster.
The artwork looks nothing like Seguso's style, the fine details don't match up with the poster and most likely the "limited engagement" blurb that was added to the 2nd and 3rd run of posters was not painted onto the art, but was a snipe that was added during printing (and the copy on this would be the 3rd printing of the poster and I see no evidence that there is anything under that blurb that would relate to the 1st or 2nd printing).

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Bruce on March 10, 2013, 05:45:45 PM
I will go out on a limb and say this is NOT the original artwork for the poster.
The artwork looks nothing like Seguso's style, the fine details don't match up with the poster and most likely the "limited engagement" blurb that was added to the 2nd and 3rd run of posters was not painted onto the art, but was a snipe that was added during printing (and the copy on this would be the 3rd printing of the poster and I see no evidence that there is anything under that blurb that would relate to the 1st or 2nd printing).



+1

Also, the art would have likely been smaller.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
it isn't the art for the poster as can be clearly seen by anyone looking at the details of the illustration. The art for the original would most certainly be smaller and indeed, probably about the size of a half sheet as that is the approximate size that poster artists worked in as a general rule. The art image posted is clearly more cartoony and by a different artist's hand. Most likely this oversized artwork is a locally produced painting for display outside a theatre when they didn't have an additional 6 sheet to display  because they had more than one place to display a 6 sheet for this movie.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2013, 06:21:50 PM

What could be the original artwork for the 6 sheet that was created for the 1940/41 release of Gone With The Wind. The piece measures 32 x 43.5 inches and is done on heavy illustration board. Ive placed an image of the actual 6 sheet below, for comparison. Sure looks to be the art that was utlilized, IMO.  clap

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/GWTWart_zpsd9e334b5.jpg)


This piece is cuurently up for auction on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GONE-WITH-THE-WIND-ORIGINAL-ARTWORK-POSSIBLY-FOR-1941-6-SHEET-POSTER-/380586578387?pt=Art_Posters&hash=item589cba51d3

BIN: $3500.00 / obo


Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 10, 2013, 07:47:19 PM
I'm surprised Norm Lazarson doesn't recognize the piece as a locally created display painting, much like the Batiste Madellena paintings.   
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Zorba on March 10, 2013, 09:01:11 PM
http://www.oscars.org/events-exhibitions/exhibitions/2011/01/peak.html

I posted this in the Peak thread but I do enjoy repeating myself.

Click on the video in the link and with a bit of patience you will see some the raw Bob Peak artwork hanging next to the film posters. Interesting the actual work that the poster guys actually did after they had the artwork.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 10, 2013, 09:52:08 PM


Son Of Frankenstein (Universal, 1939):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SonofFrankjpg_zps33530666.jpg)    (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SOF3sh_zps25fdab04.jpg)

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: 50s on March 17, 2013, 03:43:50 AM
Background of disputed accreditation of art work (http://paranoiastrikesdeep.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/jane-russells-underwater-treasure-chest.html)

(http://www.mysterycorp.com/temp/underwater_combo.jpg)

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 17, 2013, 03:20:43 PM
Steve

I read that article and only concerning one point, the author insinuates that the original 1sh image was scrapped and the image in his second photo of a Life Magazine ad is the proof. This is incorrect. Throughout the campaign both images were used. The second image he highlights was used on the insert, hs, 3sh & 30x40.

not to dispute that the photograph may or may not have been used as reference material, but his premise that the ad campaign was changed due to any lawsuit is completely false.

These images from a pressbook I sold
(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/a456_underwater_pressbook_003.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/a456_underwater_pressbook_004.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: MoviePosterBid.com on March 17, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
here is an image that is unmistakable theft.
the top image is Space Busters comic book #2 published by Ziff-Davis in 1951
the second image is a Turkish movie poster circa 1960s
the third image has all four issues of Space Busters & Space Patrol published by Ziff Davis (they are grouped as part of an ad for when I was publishing public domain comic books to digital).
I believe the comic at bottom right was also swiped for another poster by the Turks. if it wasn't that comic, then it was the one at top right. I have seen them both on ebay and Benito bought both copies of these posters, later posting them as 1930s or 1940s posters which is incorrect.  I tried to find if Benito has them listed, but couldn't.

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/space_busters_2.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/ca_1_b.jpg)

(http://www.comic-art.com/temp/apf/space crusaders1 array.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 25, 2013, 04:44:27 PM
Bob Peak art for Superman (1978):

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/superman_zpsabf34049.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/SUPERMANUS1SHB_zps51c3dbd9.jpg)


Beautiful!

 clap clap
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: pratschm on March 25, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
Not sure if this counts or not, but being an animation there really aren't any original photos, just original art (I guess?).
It's also a recent acquisition (not in possession yet so using stock):

(http://freewallpaperspot.com/wallpapers/how-to-train-your-dragon-wallpaper-hd-9.jpg) (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HOW-TO-TRAIN-YOUR-DRAGON-great-original-movie-poster-/00/s/NTYzWDM4NA==/z/k-cAAOxyA4ZRRoy3/$T2eC16RHJI!E9qSO8nJcBRRoy22gs!~~60_3.JPG)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 25, 2013, 09:57:14 PM
It's all good, Mike.

It can be original, concept art, storyboards, photos etc that might have been used or inspired the eventual poster art itself.

 ;D
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2013, 01:09:00 PM
Food of the Gods (1976)- Tom Chantrell reference photos and quad:

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/foodgods1_zpsd6991402.jpg)  (http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/foodgods2_zps625399fb.jpg)

(http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/spitfire3992/foodgods3_zps5f4f3234.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: brude on March 28, 2013, 07:58:40 PM
Nice find, Jeff.  clap clap
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: brude on March 28, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
I can't recall if I posted this here before...

Artist Zoe Mozert and model Jane Russell...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tlXHW1KHaVY/TwVLJB5kHbI/AAAAAAAARrk/tKxiF5HC35U/s1600/02ZoeMozertPaintingJaneRussell_100.jpg)

...and the final product...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yKty3UPvyrw/TwVQ6QbjW8I/AAAAAAAARr4/3wZLVx1aGc8/s1600/01ZoeMozert_TheOutlaw_poster_100.jpg)

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on March 28, 2013, 08:45:31 PM
Ted...that is one FANTASTIC pic!!! GREAT FIND!!!   bed1

 clap clap clap
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: brude on March 28, 2013, 08:48:08 PM
It is quite the image, isn't it?
Arguably one of the finest cheesecake movie posters of all time.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: CSM on March 28, 2013, 09:57:38 PM
That's great Ted!  Clearly also inspired the re-release daybill:

(http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens13751151module122148911photo_1293666175jane_russel.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Through the Stones on March 29, 2013, 12:26:23 AM
I can't post pics cause I'm at work but does Drew Struzan's entire website count?
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 09, 2017, 01:50:59 AM
Such a great movie.. (The Horror of) Dracula (1958) - title depending on the country of release.

I always have really liked the Guy Gerard Noel art that was done for the medium size French poster. It's interesting (to me) that the image of Christopher Lee used on the poster is from a scene right at the end of the film, when Dracula is just about to fall back into the sunlight (And Die), while cowering from Dr. Van Helsing (Cushing), who is forcing him into the light with 2 candlesticks held in the shape of a cross.

But it is a great image of Lee, that's for sure. (The portrayed damsel is, well, just OK, imho).

I hope to snag one of these posters   --  one day.  >:D  prayer.gif  girly2.gif

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2810/33839993431_db0a7a2cd1_h.jpg)

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5777.0;attach=5536;image)

Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2017, 02:00:56 AM
Hey T, how long ago did you snag your copy of the medium French size version of Horror of Dracula?
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: eatbrie on April 11, 2017, 03:36:59 AM
6/15/2009 in Paris.  Pretty hard to find folded, I think.  Mine is in absolute mint condition.  One of my favs.

T

Btw, I replaced your horrible picture with a copy of my poster.  If I own it and the picture is good, please use it.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2017, 12:40:16 PM
Thanks for the info, T, and will do, in the future, with a notation saying that any photo of yours is courtesy of "The Brie Collection."  ;D
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: eatbrie on April 11, 2017, 02:54:02 PM
Thanks for the info, T, and will do, in the future, with a notation saying that any photo of yours is courtesy of "The Brie Collection."  ;D

I don't need a notation, because if one day I decide to yank all my photos from the forum, you're left with Brie Collection all over.

 ;)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
Fair enough. And if you do ever decide to watermark them, could you not spray it right across the main image?   8)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: eatbrie on April 11, 2017, 03:06:57 PM
Fair enough. And if you do ever decide to watermark them, could you not spray it right across the main image?   8)

I'm not touching this.  Your fight, buddy.

T
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 11, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
No..i mean some folks like member DarvishJO had put a rather bold watermark on the pics of his he posted here, and I recall a number of posts from members why they were placed smack in the middle of the poster image, kind of obliterating parts of the art.

He explained, of course, his reasoning, and I could appreciate that; whether folks liked the marks or not was secondary, in his POV.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 12, 2017, 01:38:50 AM
This is the thread I was referring to:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9421.0.html
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mr Trent on April 26, 2017, 03:34:19 PM
I have an on-line gallery on Comic Art Fans that has its own sub-gallery devoted to my (growing) movie poster original art collection at:

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=1865

If you click onto the 'Movie Poster Artwork' under the 'Terry Doyle's Gallery Rooms' section you will see all my movie stuff.

If you click onto each thumbnail image, you will see large-sized scans, together with the option to see additional images that show how the artwork looked in print, together with foreign variations of the movie poster campaigns.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mr Trent on April 26, 2017, 03:42:27 PM
I'll be getting in a few more movie poster original paintings next week.  One of these will be British artist Vic Fair's original concept painting for the 1980s movie, FORT APACHE, THE BRONX.  For whatever reason, Fair's design was handed over to Brian Bysouth - who handled the finished painting.

Here's a photo of Brian painting the poster art, together with a scan of the resulting printed poster.  I'll be uploading a photo of Vic Fair's concept art sometime next week, once it's reached me . . .
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mr Trent on April 27, 2017, 07:34:23 AM
Photo of British artist Tom Chantrell posing for a reference photo.  In the background you can see some of his framed original paintings . . . with noticeable images of Sean Connery, Bridget Bardot and Elvis the Pelvis.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mr Trent on April 27, 2017, 07:38:29 AM
The Connery/Bardot painting was used for the British quad advance poster of SHALAKO (later replaced by a revised version of the art for the movie's general release campaign poster).
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Mr Trent on May 04, 2017, 08:50:25 AM
New in today . . . Tom Chantrell's original movie poster painting for SHALAKO.

SHALAKO was a British 1968 Western movie directed by Edward Dmytryk, starring Sean Connery and Brigitte Bardot.  It was filmed in Almería, Spain.

The cast also included Stephen Boyd, Jack Hawkins, and Honor Blackman, Connery's co-star from GOLDFINGER. It was based on a novel by Louis L'Amour.

Producer Euan Lloyd was introduced to Louis L'Amour, author of numerous Western adventure novels, by his actor friend Alan Ladd. Over the years as Lloyd dreamed of becoming an independent producer, he kept in touch with L'Amour.  He wanted to film his 1962 novel SHALAKO.

At one time Lloyd had lined up Henry Fonda and Senta Berger to star in the film, planning to shoot it in Mexico.  Lloyd recounted that, at the time, many film distributors were reluctant to back a film starring Fonda, and increases in the cost of filming in Mexico made it impossible to pursue.

During a meeting with L'Amour, Lloyd recounted long lines at the cinemas in New York for the latest James Bond adventure film.  L'Amour remarked that Sean Connery, who starred in the role, would certainly "look tall in the saddle".  When Lloyd met Sean Connery and discussed the work with him, he learned that Connery was a Western fan since childhood. He was also keen to do the film as he had been promised $1.2 million and 30% of the profits out of the $5 million budget.  Connery was available, as he had turned down playing Bond in ON HER MAJESTY’S SECRET SERVICE.

Lloyd obtained the film's planned original co-star Brigitte Bardot, Bond cinematographer Ted Moore, and Bond stuntman and action scene arranger Bob Simmons.

Bardot was paid $400,000 plus 12.5% of the profits.

Once Lloyd had Connery on board, many European and other film distributors were keen to finance the film.  Distributors in 35 different countries agreed to provide promissory notes worth $5 million payable on delivery of the film. This enabled Lloyd to raise the $3 million necessary to start production and to sign Connery and Bardot.  $1,455,000 came from ABC in the USA, with $2 million from elsewhere.  Dimitri de Grunwald became involved in helping finance.

The film was shot in Almería, Spain. Whilst scouting locations when planning to film in the United States, Lloyd had noticed that many Native Americans were overweight. He did not think they looked menacing enough.  Simmons recruited a "war party" of lean and mean Romani people (gypsies), whom he trained to ride and act like war-bent Apaches.

Simmons talked Connery into shaving off the droopy moustache which he had grown for the historic period. The investors perhaps remembered Gregory Peck's moustache in THE GUNFIGHTER, which was believed to have discouraged some of the public from attending. They feared the same might happen with SHALAKO.

Almería province was a favoured location for filming spaghetti Westerns.  But, when SHALAKO was in production, Harry Saltzman's Second World War film, PLAY DIRTY, set in the Libyan Desert, was being filmed on the same locations. One film crew had to wipe out the tyre tracks in the sand before filming the Old West, whilst the other had to pick up the horse droppings before shooting the Second World War battles.  Once the gypsy Apaches, mounted on horseback, rode by mistake headlong into an attack on a Long Range Desert Group!
Lloyd gathered a strong international cast, including Connery's former co-star Honor Blackman from GOLDFINGER, as well as Jack Hawkins, Stephen Boyd, Woody Strode, Peter van Eyck, Alexander Knox, Eric Sykes and Don Barry.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: Simes on May 04, 2017, 09:42:20 AM
Cracking stuff.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: martinc on May 05, 2017, 03:56:43 AM
I like how he managed to sneak Eric Sykes into the bottom corner of the poster. Maybe you could only get away with such an unusual cast combination in a western - although as I recall it was an uncomfortable combination that didn't really work on the screen. Great artwork though.
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on November 21, 2017, 11:03:47 PM
Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954)

The art of Ms Adams on the OS was adjusted from the photo, as she was (a) overdressed and (b) her hands and arms were "in the way."  ;D

Plus, a water theme and background works better, too.

(http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5777.0;attach=7711;image)
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: guest4955 on November 22, 2017, 03:18:18 AM
Good info Jeff,.....
Title: Re: Original Art/Photos and the Resulting Poster
Post by: erik1925 on April 09, 2018, 02:01:56 PM
When artist Bruno Rehak designed this German RR poster for Frankenstein in the 1950's, the image of Karloff was also based on an earlier publicity still. Only problem was that the image used of Karloff was of him as the Monster from Son Of Frankenstein in 1939, and not one from the original 1931 flicker.  Doh.gif

The artist thinned Karloff's face slightly for the poster, but the image is basically unchanged.

(https://i.imgur.com/V8jMs1J.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z1YubkQ.jpg)