Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[110x75]

The photos of the Dracula insert in the upcoming signature auction make the restoration look a little poor. I feel like Fine/Very Fine is a stretch based on the condition issues noted.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/movie-posters/horror/dracula-universal-1931-fine-very-fine-on-linen-insert-14-x-36-/p/7272-51005.s?ic=Home-FeaturedItems-071515

The major problem with that Dracula insert seems to be fading IMHO (what looks orange should look red, right?)
In the other hand, those with pockets deep enough to bid on it probably don't want to wait until another example appears...

[crowzilla]

The major problem with that Dracula insert seems to be fading IMHO (what looks orange should look red, right?)
In the other hand, those with pockets deep enough to bid on it probably don't want to wait until another example appears...

The only two I've seen in person looked just like this copy,
Will you post yours so we can see the red you are talking about?

[110x75]

The only two I've seen in person looked just like this copy,
Will you post yours so we can see the red you are talking about?

Easy, cowboy! 
I used "seems to be" and "IMHO" just because I am not 100% certain. Having doubts is still acceptable around here or did I miss something?
I'm not lucky enough to have seen one of these in person, so I have nothing to compare against. I did see some posters wich suffered discoloration for being exposed to light, and in those posters the red areas turned into an orange -ish color.
The reds in the styles A and F one sheets for Dracula, certainly look "really red", so if the colors of the insert were always meant to be those that can be appreciated in the Heritage example, its surely an odd choice from the poster makers.

[crowzilla]

Easy, cowboy! 
I used "seems to be" and "IMHO" just because I am not 100% certain. Having doubts is still acceptable around here or did I miss something?
I'm not lucky enough to have seen one of these in person, so I have nothing to compare against. I did see some posters wich suffered discoloration for being exposed to light, and in those posters the red areas turned into an orange -ish color.
The reds in the styles A and F one sheets for Dracula, certainly look "really red", so if the colors of the insert were always meant to be those that can be appreciated in the Heritage example, its surely an odd choice from the poster makers.

No worries, you just got me all excited - I thought maybe you had another copy to compare it to.
As I said, the other two I've seen have colors pretty much like this (as does one style of half sheet).
The colors definitely give it a creepy and atmospheric look, they may have been all found together, I'm not sure about their origin; other than they came from the West Coast.

[110x75]

I thought maybe you had another copy to compare it to.

I wish!

If all known copies look like this, there's a chance they were printed like that, yep. We won't know for sure unless another copy in different condition appears.
I just find odd that if all the other pieces from the promotional campaign use such bold coloring, the insert looks so "washed" (for lack of a better term).
Maybe it has to do with the printing process, as stone lithography was used for one sheets (wich keep their bold colors) but the insert and lobby cards were offset-printed, and maybe those inks aged differently?
The dust-jacket of the photoplay book is a good example of what I mean. This 2 copies were auctioned by Heritage, and as can be seen, light has affected one more than the other

[crowzilla]

I agree those are very different.
Red definitely fade first, but one thing I have noticed with fading is that the lighter colors will also usually wash out completely.
In the book example you posted, the tag line block ("was he beast...man...") is consistently light orange on both of those, showing no signs of fading.
I wonder if there were two print runs on those covers?

This one is interesting:
The colors remain consistent after the fold line goes under the cover, where you think it would be far less likely to be faded.

[redman]

any bids on the jimmy bond 

[eatbrie]

Just checked HA upcoming auction.  Well, tomorrow   Lots of good stuff.  I see a dozen posters with my name on it but it's going to be hard.  I have kids' soccer, tennis, football and soccer games tomorrow.  Busy Saturday!!!  And I'm coaching one soccer game.  Shit!!! 

Good luck to all bidding.

T

[redman]

Heritage flogging the film festival poster as a R49 this time
They don't listen. carry on nothing to see here. more donations to trump no doubt

[50s]

Sorry, I dont know which thread to stick this....

This looks like a very big poster banner thingy (Vinyl)
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/928011064582417/

[eatbrie]

Haha love it!!!  Was it taken from a helicopter?  I’m sure someone will buy it.

T

[Tob]

 ; That is an excellent photo! I thought it was tricky trying to photograph bus shelter posters, but this is on another level. 

[Crazy Vick]

https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-auction-memorabilia-westwood-cinema-movie-theater/40351200

Somewhere in middle America -
Anyone planning to attend (and taking orders)?

[eatbrie]

I was there a couple days ago.  Not that it matters much anyway, I would never attend something like this.

T

[eatbrie]

Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T

[riley540]

Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T

Just don’t bid on what I want and we will be good!

[crowzilla]

Just checked HA Sig auction for tmr.  Right on time!!!!  Some good stuff there.  A few I might try to win.  Prob won't.  Cracking my knuckles.

T

You must be looking at a different section than I am.
I see lots of faded and restored pieces and am just shaking my head.

Why did Hall buy a CGC graded 9.2  title card for The Golem and not only crack it out (which is fine of course), but then put tape on the back?? 

[crowzilla]

Re: HA Auction

Let this be a lesson for the kiddies today: 
Don't spend a fortune amassing an incredible lobby card collection and then display them all in direct sunlight so they get faded and the value destroyed.

[eatbrie]

Luckily for me, I don't buy single lobby cards, so I totally skipped the morning auction.

But I see a lot of fading even with posters.  Case in point:

HA vs MINE



There are plenty more like this.  I really hope it's a bad picture, but then again, why would you advertise something at your Signature auction with a bad picture?

T

[crowzilla]

Luckily for me, I don't buy single lobby cards, so I totally skipped the morning auction.

It's nice when what you collect can be found that way.
Would never have gotten my Metropolis card if I had waited for a set instead of jumping on a single card. Probably couldn't have afforded a set anyways, and not everyone wants a Metropolis lobby either, so it all works out pretty good.

[eatbrie]

Trust me, there are a lot of lobbies that I would like to own and never will because I can't find it as a set or if I do it is too expensive.  I'm fine with that.  I am just not interested in single lobby cards.  Never have.

T

[Antoine1973]

I'm also quite shocked at the amount of fading in all the Uni Horror cards that are offered in this Signature Sale.  I think that explains why most are underperforming because in terms of rarity and desirability, they're as high as it gets for lobby cards in the hobby.

[oldposterho]

That was an amazing collection.  Bang on the best available cards for every film, pity about the fading but at least he got to enjoy them.  Presumably.

Re: HA Auction

Let this be a lesson for the kiddies today: 
Don't spend a fortune amassing an incredible lobby card collection and then display them all in direct sunlight so they get faded and the value destroyed.