Mid-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[Neo]

This one could also go in the taglines thread:



https://www.ebay.com/itm/394696569831?hash=item5be5bfb3e7:g:kmUAAOSwq8tkf-Wi

[110x75]

Good ol' Olen Ray! 

[Neo]

Good ol' Olen Ray! 

Yeah, I don't know much about the guy or his work, but interesting filmography.  Monster a GoGo mentioned this one in one of his acquisitions threads so it must be a classic. 

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158

Brude also mentioned this movie, and seeing it with Tobe Hooper aka Leatherface, who starred in Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113

[110x75]

Yeah, I don't know much about the guy or his work, but interesting filmography.  Monster a GoGo mentioned this one in one of his acquisitions threads so it must be a classic. 

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,9480.msg250158.html#msg250158

Brude also mentioned this movie, and seeing it with Tobe Hooper aka Leatherface, who starred in Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,872.msg192113.html#msg192113

His words "nude women are the best special effect" says a lot about his films,,,, 

[Neo]

The bidding battle started early for this one:

[crowzilla]

The bidding battle started early for this one:

That can't be right. Wasn't someone here insisting that poster was only a $300-600 max piece?

[Heather_Mason_SH3]

That can't be right. Wasn't someone here insisting that poster was only a $300-600 max piece?

It WAS not even two years ago. One desperate person overpays and now everyone thinks it's worth thousands, and they are selling as such. I had my eyes on the Sleepaway Camp posters for a while now. They were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time (and I only started collectingin 2019). My comments were made before this became the norm for the poster. 

[Starling]

Sleepaway Camp has one of the most insane and unsettling final scenes of all time. Like, nightmare inducing. Pretty cool poster, too

[Neo]

Sleepaway Camp has one of the most insane and unsettling final scenes of all time. Like, nightmare inducing. Pretty cool poster, too

Oh zoinks.    I figured the movie must have some good parts for the posters to be in such high demand.  With that description I'll have to add it to my watchlist. 

[BruceH]

It WAS not even two years ago. One desperate person overpays and now everyone thinks it's worth thousands, and they are selling as such. I had my eyes on the Sleepaway Camp posters for a while now. They were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time (and I only started collectingin 2019). My comments were made before this became the norm for the poster. 

Were those ones thar were "were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time" the 2 line version or the 3 line version, and were they unfolded and in nice condition?

[Heather_Mason_SH3]

Were those ones thar were "were easy to find on eBay for well under that price for the longest time" the 2 line version or the 3 line version, and were they unfolded and in nice condition?

The one you have for auction right now is actually the first I've seen unfolded. I have seen examples of both the two line version and three line version and quality differed from good to very good. I don't doubt that current one is probably the most pristine copy out there, hence the appropriate price. I wouldn't be surprised if the final bid on it doubles or more!

[Charlie]

Oh zoinks.    I figured the movie must have some good parts for the posters to be in such high demand.  With that description I'll have to add it to my watchlist. 

I don’t know. It’s pretty mind searing - you’ll never think of it the same way again. Shuddderrr - wish I had never watched it.

[bigmike]

Again with  the Sleepaway Camp. I sold mine back and am regretting it. Not because of the cost. But my main collection is horror. I get the price above because it’s rolled and as others mentioned the condition is great. But what are the chances now I find a folded one for decent price…

[Neo]

Again with  the Sleepaway Camp. I sold mine back and am regretting it. Not because of the cost. But my main collection is horror. I get the price above because it’s rolled and as others mentioned the condition is great. But what are the chances now I find a folded one for decent price…

With the current demand, at the well known places, very low probability.  It all goes in cycles, though.  I'm sure a lot of the older stuff, that some people think is so vastly superior to modern stuff, and has been in very high demand by a few folks with deep pockets - that stuff will see dips in the market value.  Maybe someday the modern stuff will be more in demand than Metropolis, King Kong, etc., and then it also will potentially face a decline in the market eventually.

[bigmike]

With the current demand, at the well known places, very low probability.  It all goes in cycles, though.  I'm sure a lot of the older stuff, that some people think is so vastly superior to modern stuff, and has been in very high demand by a few folks with deep pockets - that stuff will see dips in the market value.  Maybe someday the modern stuff will be more in demand than Metropolis, King Kong, etc., and then it also will potentially face a decline in the market eventually.

I can wait. I’m in no rush, I guess I just have to keep an eye out. But it’s like Jaws and back to the Future. I still don’t have copies of them because the prices now always seem high for them. Like does everyone and their grandma keep bidding on them or are dealers just scooping them up..

[Starling]

I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting 

[Neo]

I can wait. I’m in no rush, I guess I just have to keep an eye out. But it’s like Jaws and back to the Future. I still don’t have copies of them because the prices now always seem high for them. Like does everyone and their grandma keep bidding on them or are dealers just scooping them up..

Yeah there are a lot of folks looking to score those, so the demand is still very high, despite the large supply.  As you said, patience is key for a good deal.

[Neo]

I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting 

The 4, 0, 4-5, etc. *known to exist.  .  There could be a warehouse or attic, who knows, with several more.  By the time those who have the few known to exist decide to sell them, it'll depend on how deep the pockets are of the folks who want to win them. 

Some artists who were famous in their time are almost unheard of now whereas others' works like those of Vermeer, etc. who were almost unheard of back in the day are the most treasured.

[Neo]

I really do look forward to the day that the 4 German Metropolis posters, ZERO Metropolis US One sheets, 4-5 King Kong US 3-sheets (So like less than 20 pieces of paper) are less in demand than the 7 billion Star Wars, Jaws, and Back to the Future posters. Will make my life much more interesting 

That's not what I was saying.  The outliers for titles, for example the very few known to exist copies for these older popular films, cannot be compared to the regularly seen versions of newer popular films.  Scarcity is of course a big determining factor in separating the common sales prices for versions that are regularly seen compared to the less common versions - ex. Jaws 6, 7 sheet, etc. vs one sheet, etc.

[Neo]

I really like the colors and style of this UK video poster for Friday the 13th.  The bids have been going up rapidly and still almost 5 days left in the auction.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/256231223290

[eatbrie]

Nice!  Waaaaay above my pay grade, unfortunately.

T

[crowzilla]

Maybe my eyes aren't what they used to be when I was helping the FBI detect Universal horror fakes, but isn't this a hairy belt poster?

https://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=6621624

[crowzilla]

Just want to say that Bruce handled that as quickly and well as I thought he would, and the auction looks really good so far.
It's great to add so many items to my watch list that are "completely unrestored", while also feeling any restored pieces have been properly explained and identified.

[eatbrie]

That's essential to me.  Should I ever sell any of my gear, I would go to the person I know, and although I have never met him in person, Bruce has always been there to answer my questions and doubts.  His team is very knowledgeable and passionate, and very good at handling issues (case in point, that Star Wars poster) and he himself replies promptly. 

To be honest, I don't even know who's in charge at HA anymore.  They had a few erroneous listings at their last Sig Auction which I pointed out, they eventually (after a while) removed those listings, but no one ever got back to me, let alone said thank you.  I feel like the whole movie poster side of that auction house, which, I get it, is a drop in the bucket compared to their other auctions, is without a driver since Grey left.

T

[Antoine1973]

To be honest, I don't even know who's in charge at HA anymore.  They had a few erroneous listings at their last Sig Auction which I pointed out, they eventually (after a while) removed those listings, but no one ever got back to me, let alone said thank you.  I feel like the whole movie poster side of that auction house, which, I get it, is a drop in the bucket compared to their other auctions, is without a driver since Grey left.

T

I had the exact same experience: I pointed out several errors in their last couple of Signature auctions (including a French 1951 re-release poster for La Belle et la Bete that had been mistakenly identified as from the 1946 first release) and never heard back from anyone (although they did amend their listings, so I guess there's that).  Heritage does feel a bit rudderless in their movie department these days...