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Offline paul waines

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2012, 08:43:14 AM »
I was 4 in 1983. Man, I wish I had started gathering posters earlier...   :D


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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2012, 08:56:53 AM »
I was 4 in 1983. Man, I wish I had started gathering posters earlier...   :D

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2012, 08:58:09 AM »
I was 10, and a year away from our 1st VCR
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2012, 08:58:37 AM »
Man, this place is full of Young Whippersnappers... ;)
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2012, 09:27:02 AM »
I was 10, and a year away from our 1st VCR

We got our first Beta deck in 1982 and my dad promptly hooked it up to the neighbors' so we could copy movies :)

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2012, 09:31:05 AM »
being the oldest on here, I got my first Betamax in 80, and the first thing I copied was Dawn of the Dead.... :D  But I'd had to wait until a friend bought a recorder, and a folk lift to take them around each others houses to copy films... ;)
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2012, 09:47:21 AM »
How old are you Paul?

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 09:49:33 AM »
my parents could afford a VCR when they came out,, we had to wait until my grandparents bought us one Xmas 1984 - WHAT A DAY, they borrowed a friends and they copied THE BLUES BROTHERS. I saved and bought a beta when I was an early teen and started collecting tapes (VHS but manly Beta).
The 1st Video I rented was MEGA FORCE and the 2nd 1990 Bronx Warriors.
After that I cant remember order.
But it cost my mum $300 to JOIN the video library, then pay for rentals on top of that. $300 was at least a weeks wages.
Another library you bought one tape, of your choice and whenever you wanted to you traded it for another title, and paid a fee.
Thats when 90% was beta.
If I had a time machine...:)
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 09:58:19 AM »
How old are you Paul?

I just meant amongst the Whippersnappers Bruce, I'm 51 on the 8th of August, and like posters as presents.... ;) preferably Uni-Horror.   









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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2012, 10:00:16 AM »
And I Yell at everything not just clouds.... ;D
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2012, 10:01:35 AM »
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2012, 10:03:58 AM »
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2012, 10:05:05 AM »
I am 2 days older than you, but 12 years younger.
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2012, 10:12:25 AM »
In the late-1970s, a rich friend of mind bought one of the very first VCRs, for $1000!

It could only play one hour tapes, so movies were on two tapes. As soon as a two hour machine came out, she bought that version, and sold me the $1,000 one for $100. I stuck with that piece of crap for a few years.

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2012, 11:28:59 AM »
That's not what the BBFC say on their web site, and Sim says the 9th, that's 3  different dates. Though I don't think that is the point here.

Re: Trimmed Quad... There's No evidence that it was cut down, I think the Video version was printed like that, and on the smaller paper, two different printings, hence the difference in Quality, and feel...  So to say this is a trimmed Quad is all wrong.


Hi, Paul!

To be fair to Sim ... if you're quoting my previous posting ... he actually gives 9th December as the release date, not the change of certification.

Re: Trimmed quad - I'm happy to accept the possibility that the under-sized version was produced intentionally in that size - either on smaller paper or when guillotined to those dimensions after printing which technically I suppose wouldn't make it a 'trimmed quad' - so we're singing from the same hymn sheet there.

And no-one's the oldest here except me.

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2012, 11:43:57 AM »
Any ideas on those Metric sizes Terry?  I do think they maybe a clue to all this...
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2012, 12:16:26 PM »
Old age and metric don't mix.

Seriously though .. ahem ... unless there are lots of other posters exactly that size, it's more than likely just a random choice of a size of paper which would accommodate the artwork which was featured in the 30" x 40" quad.  If video posters generally don't have white borders (and I know nothing about video posters) that might have been why they decided to just use the artwork as it was and bleed it on all four edges as they didn't want a white border.  The finished size would be just the consequence of them removing the borders from the artwork as it already existed.

Seems reasonable.

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2012, 12:28:18 PM »
I'm not sure on that one, quite a lot of Video stores had Cinema Quads up as display/advertising as well as the usual smaller video posters... People in those stores did'nt care where posters came from, they put anything up, even cuttings from magazines.

I think those Metric sizes are too spot on for random. the folds are very precise also.

I hope Ed can get some info from Graham....  it would be great to get to the bottom of this.
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2012, 07:03:11 PM »
What are these posters $$ going for now??

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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2012, 03:07:24 PM »
I've seen the Smaller (video version... ;)) go for £100+

Only ever saw One white boarder one sell, and that was over £300...
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2012, 03:25:08 PM »
I've seen the Smaller (video version... ;)) go for £100+

Only ever saw One white boarder one sell, and that was over £300...

Just got my white border for $150 USD, but that was a fluke (like most of my purchases).  It is also a little banged up, but not terribly so.... lovingly used if you will.

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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2012, 03:28:12 PM »
If you paid only $150 Harry, that makes it $600 for normal people... ;D
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Re: Evil Dead Quad, and Video poster difference....
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2012, 07:20:46 AM »
Apologies for the delay in posting this but I've been having a back and forth with Graham for a couple of weeks and we've confirmed one thing:

There are definitely two original versions of the Evil Dead quad. One full size with a white border and the other trimmed with no border.

The question of why there are two versions is still unanswered and even Graham is stumped. Below are some excerpts from our discussions:

Graham's initial reply after I enquired if he knew why two versions existed (one with white border):
I recall providing artwork for the quad only. But I think you are correct in that the alternative size was for video stores. It might also have been created as an insert for any of the numerous industry magazines (with an over-run?).

I am sure that the quad run was limited because the film's success was not anticipated. There would have been sufficient for UK cinemas front of house and the substantial fly posting and London underground campaign.

But this should really be checked with the boys that know (ie. Nik Powell & Steve Woolley). 'white border'? there should have been no white border on anything.

Me:
It's a bit of a mystery as all of the ones without borders are not full size quads (ie 30x40) and the ones with borders always are. Do you reckon the white border ones could be ones that survived being cut down to the ones that were on the tube etc?

Graham:
Might have been a printers error, though I actually watched the first ones come off the printing press to ensure good colour adjustment.

Graham then agreed to check his own copies of the poster that he has at home

Graham:
Well, it looks as if you were correct!
I have both the trimmed and untrimmed versions. Why they are not 30'x40' is a mystery. They were certainly supplied to be so. Must have been a specific reason, though I can't imagine what.
The border version measures 39 and 3/4" x 30 and 1/4".
The trimmed version measures 38 and 1/4" x 28 3/4"
Photo of the two attached, showing that the print is the same size.



[Note that Graham's smaller version is UNFOLDED.]

Graham:
I suspect one was for theatres and one for advertising (underground etc).

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This tallies with some of Paul's thoughts and recollections as well as the fact that there's no way my source for the full size would have had a bootleg of any kind (he used to work directly with Palace Pictures and Graham). Sim also distinctly remembers seeing and handling tens of copies of the smaller version at fairs over the years (his own copy is the smaller one). He is of the opinion that the full-size version was likely the same print run and that the smaller version is simply trimmed version of the same poster, not a separate run.

My next port of call is a chap called Paul Webster who Graham mentioned in my interview with him as being the person who was in charge of the Evil Dead marketing campaign. If anyone knows why there are two versions it will be him. The only problem is that, as you'll see if you follow that link, he's now a 'big-shot' producer, so it's extremely likely that he'll tell me to take a long walk off a short pier, if I can even find contact details that is. I shall give it a shot though!



Graham also sent me some other Evil Dead related images that I thought you guys would like:

A computer game tie-in poster




An Evil Dead press ad announcing the success of the film designed by Graham




An Evil Dead competition leaflet (check out the prize!)




The questions:




An early screening invite for Evil Dead 2, designed by Graham:


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