Author Topic: Amateur Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin  (Read 210411 times)

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #125 on: April 15, 2012, 09:21:18 PM »
DAMMIT!!! I knew that I should have sent you 10 posters, not just the two moron1 moron1 moron1 I should have had more faith that a fellow collector such as yourself would go above and beyond to make sure these restorations are done correctly.

Your time, effort, struggles and pain and all worth of praise and admiration. I salute you good sir! cheers

Whenever you are able to find time to work on more of my stuff I will be willing to pay whatever price you think is fair.

Thanks,
Jon

Thanks for this Jon. 



   

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #126 on: April 15, 2012, 10:33:29 PM »
Time for some fun.  Remember this one Mel?  When I first joined APF, Mel and I exchanged a few e-mails and I told him I was fond of "The Deep".  He recommended I get this poster but it is from a playboy and on two separate pages.  So now I can finally make it a poster...  Wish me luck.  Going to do a couple of Belgians too..


Offline CSM

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 12567
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #127 on: April 15, 2012, 10:36:24 PM »
I''m impressed and very pleased for you Charlie - great job

Agreed!
Chris

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #128 on: April 15, 2012, 11:00:07 PM »
So in taking Dario's advice I found this:

http://cool.conservation-us.org/coolaic/sg/bpg/pcc/

I'll do like an good nerd does and read my way out...

Dread_Pirate_Mel

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #129 on: April 15, 2012, 11:12:12 PM »
Time for some fun.  Remember this one Mel?  When I first joined APF, Mel and I exchanged a few e-mails and I told him I was fond of "The Deep".  He recommended I get this poster but it is from a playboy and on two separate pages.  So now I can finally make it a poster...  Wish me luck.  Going to do a couple of Belgians too..


Yeah, I like it but the two pieces don't match on mine - the water color is significantly different on both parts, so it can't really be "fixed."

The best poster for this is the special book promo  - 14.5" x 75(!)"
« Last Edit: April 15, 2012, 11:12:36 PM by Dread_Pirate_Mel »

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #130 on: April 15, 2012, 11:16:21 PM »
Yeah, I like it but the two pieces don't match on mine - the water color is significantly different on both parts, so it can't really be "fixed."

The best poster for this is the special book promo  - 14.5" x 75(!)"


The two pieces worth worrying about match on mine...  ;D  Mine appear to match maybe you need to buy another Playboy...

Offline Harry Caul

  • Curator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5885
    • Marquee Poster
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #131 on: April 16, 2012, 08:40:07 AM »

Dread_Pirate_Mel

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #132 on: April 16, 2012, 08:53:27 AM »
I think Charlie already has that one Mel: http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,177.msg71134.html#msg71134

No, that's the 44" version.  I've got that one too.

Online Tob

  • Administrator
  • Hoarder
  • *****
  • Posts: 1973
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #133 on: April 16, 2012, 03:58:57 PM »
Just caught up with this thread...it's great! Well done Charlie, that linen backed Thunderbold and Lightfoot looks fantastic.

Offline MoviePosterBid.com

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 10339
    • MoviePosterBid.com only movie memorabilia
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2012, 05:45:42 PM »
why would you want to flatten out Jackie Bissett??

wynk


[/quote]

Movieposterbid.com is the FIRST All-Movie Poster Auction Site. We're not #1, but we try harder
"LIKE" MoviePosterBid.com on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Movieposterbidcom

-------

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2012, 11:26:58 PM »
Time for some fun.  Remember this one Mel?  When I first joined APF, Mel and I exchanged a few e-mails and I told him I was fond of "The Deep".  He recommended I get this poster but it is from a playboy and on two separate pages.  So now I can finally make it a poster...  Wish me luck.  Going to do a couple of Belgians too..



Well I think I mounted Jacqueline too hard.  I got carry away sponging off her top portion... ;)   The magazine surface just washed away...  I'll have to see what it looks like when it dries.  The other interesting thing is that I think the papers were different (top and bottom) as well.  The top part expanded a lot while the bottom didn't expand much at all and when I placed them, the top was a good 1/8" wider...   The Belgians turned out great... Pics when they dry up...

I did small ones while the wife is away; sometimes it helps to have an extra pair of hands for the larger ones...
« Last Edit: April 18, 2012, 11:28:22 PM by Charlie »

Offline Silhouette

  • Hoarder
  • ****
  • Posts: 3866
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #136 on: April 19, 2012, 12:48:02 AM »
Well I think I mounted Jacqueline too hard.  

Not the first time that has been said  ;)
David


Online 50s

  • Curator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5630
  • Steve
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #137 on: April 19, 2012, 12:56:09 AM »
I got carry away sponging off her top portion... ;)   The magazine surface just washed away...  I'll have to see what it looks like when it dries.  

Hopefully Jacqueline topless  thumbup



Offline MoviePosterBid.com

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 10339
    • MoviePosterBid.com only movie memorabilia
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #138 on: April 19, 2012, 01:59:44 AM »
inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Movieposterbid.com is the FIRST All-Movie Poster Auction Site. We're not #1, but we try harder
"LIKE" MoviePosterBid.com on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Movieposterbidcom

-------

Offline MoviePosterBid.com

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 10339
    • MoviePosterBid.com only movie memorabilia
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #139 on: April 19, 2012, 02:02:24 AM »
I would love to take your recommendation but I have no idea where to receive training; I guess it would be paper conservation training versus movie poster conservation training. Right?  University with a Library Science degree?

you ask Dario how much he will charge you for 3 days of education and you fly up to Canada & spend a weekend learning, eating food and drinking wine with the AWESOME Jojo

Movieposterbid.com is the FIRST All-Movie Poster Auction Site. We're not #1, but we try harder
"LIKE" MoviePosterBid.com on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Movieposterbidcom

-------

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #140 on: April 19, 2012, 08:30:29 PM »
Update:  Been playing with some watercolors for restoration...  I've noticed that regular watercolors dry flat and often don't have enough covering power.  So I did some research and there is a reversible way to accomplish added sheen and cover power.  That is through the use of Opaque Water Colors and the use of Gum Arabic.  Now all my research indicates that these can be softened or dissolved in water, which is what I really want for the restoration effort. So here are some experimental pics.  I will later see how reversible they are...  Now the pics are just from taping a poster to masa and to a watercolor cardboard.  I also paperbacked two cutouts to play with later...

First poster collecting blasphemy or sacrilege...






Paperbacked for later use; baby girl always wants to be in the picture...




Had to rough up the poster a bit to experiment with it.  You wouldn't believe but I laid packing tape over the poster and tries to rip off surface too little or no effect at all; so out came the sandpaper!



Playing with something called Frisket AKA masking fluid for watercolors...




Frisket rubbed off!


Here are some good comparison shot of the three types of watercolor treatments I experimented with. Regular, Opaque, and Opaque with Gum Arabic...








Now lets play with artist tape!





Probably need to look into a more sensitive artist tape and perhaps higher quality Frisket.  I might be taking these back as they claim not to damage artwork...

Let me know what you think!

Pulfixin Out!

Offline CSM

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 12567
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #141 on: April 19, 2012, 08:43:01 PM »
Charlie you really have to try a more vintage poster.  I think the colouring results will display much better outside the modern glossy paper...
Chris

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2012, 08:44:37 PM »
So here are some current projects....

Four brave APFers sent me posters and covered my material cost (in one way or another) to see what I could do.  I won't mention any names (the file names might give it away) but if you guys want to chime in feel free!

First one done for someone else was a MMA poster - B&A

http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/jons_backings/poster1_sbs.jpg

I did Jackie and two Belgians last night... I really love the small posters, they are so easy to move around.  After pics in a day or so...  Jackie was my first major fail!  

http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/lb_stuff/smalls/small001L.jpg
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/lb_stuff/smalls/small002L.jpg
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/lb_stuff/smalls/small003L.jpg

Now I got seven (and one on the way) posters lined up.  Here are some before pics:

One more MMA:

http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/jons_backings/poster2.jpg

The Beauty College Haircut:

http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/matts_backings/poster1_04182012.jpg

These next five will be a true test of my skills:

http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/daves_backings/poster1_04182012.jpg
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/daves_backings/poster2_04182012.jpg
This next one will be fun!
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/daves_backings/poster3_04182012.jpg
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/daves_backings/poster4_04182012.jpg
http://www.abideposters.com/apf_junk/daves_backings/poster5_04182012.jpg
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 09:20:01 PM by Charlie »

Charlie

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2012, 08:45:46 PM »
Charlie you really have to try a more vintage poster.  I think the colouring results will display much better outside the modern glossy paper...

Quite true but I am not really worried about the vintage stuff.  The Thunderbolt came out fine with regular watercolors except the face which could have used the opaques...  I guess I can still paint/experiment on the Strange Bedfellows...  
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 08:46:05 PM by Charlie »

Offline CSM

  • Post-aholic
  • **********
  • Posts: 12567
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2012, 09:03:17 PM »
Looking forward to seeing how the Belgians turned out...
Chris

guest8

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2012, 09:05:42 PM »
Forget the other lets see those quads!!!! :D

the chip guy

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2012, 10:31:34 PM »
lol! I'm glad two of my junkie posters where among the first few that you got to play with woohoo any chance of getting a #'d restoration COA with them? ;)
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 10:32:20 PM by the chip guy »

guest4251

  • Guest
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2012, 11:53:08 PM »
Haha Richie!,

Next time awesome Jojo and I are down in Vegas, we'll finish of the rest of the Sushi menu and the Sake compartment,ugh!

I can tell everyone that over the years I've gotten plenty of inquiries about "how can I learn? can you teach me?" I might even spoken to Charlie at one point??

I am trying to be as helpful as I can be, but I am heavily invested emotionally and financially and I can't justifiable give it all away. I am sorry! and I don't want to be found dead wrapped up in a 13 duck canvas in the pond. :P

You all probably notice that over the course of many years. it's been me and late great Susan Olson who's done all the  Q&A and I will continue to do so, within reason.

So,

That brings me to Charlie,

I am looking at the images of what looks like you are experimenting to get a higher Gloss on Gloss paper. If there was such thing, I would have used it on the E.T. poster for example. Also there is no Black that can mimic printing Jet Black.

So here's a little trick for you. After you have filled in all the fold lines on Glossy paper, use a Burnishing bone to go over the the folds. You can create a wee bit of a sheen that way.

All the best,
dario.

Offline 110x75

  • Hoarder
  • ****
  • Posts: 2942
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #148 on: April 20, 2012, 12:14:54 AM »
First poster collecting blasphemy or sacrilege...

It's not basphemy with an Eddie Murphy poster...  ;)
Matias
http://110x75.blogspot.com.ar/

IG: @cinepapelarchivo

Offline TheAnswerMVP2001

  • Collector
  • ***
  • Posts: 582
  • Just Mellin'
    • Voluptuous Vinyl
Re: Amatuer Linenbacking 101 by Pulpfixin
« Reply #149 on: April 20, 2012, 01:32:09 AM »
It's not basphemy with an Eddie Murphy poster...  ;)

True.  When it comes to Eddie Murphy movies the movies themselves are sacrilege, at least anything he's done in the last 20 years.