Author Topic: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints? (Read 64603 times)

Harry Caul · « **Reply #75 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:02:28 AM »

By the way, does anyone know what this is? I've seen it labeled as an English 1-sheet...

archie leach · « **Reply #76 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:29:10 AM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 05, 2012, 12:21:34 AM

Hi Archie-
I hope you don't think I'm picking on you just to be a dick. I really am just trying to get the bottom of this. As for this last statement... to play devils advocate... would HA and eMovie also be representative of that distribution? I just checked Raiders sales and counted the following:

Raiders '81 (not including restrikes, R82s or Killians)
66 HA
71 eMovie

Compare that with BR
41 HA
75 eMovie

Again, this proves nothing, but it also seems that BR is no more prevalent than Raiders. Harrison Ford was HOT, HOT, HOT in '82 having come off Star Wars, ESB, and Raiders. I'm sure there was every expectation from the Warner that BR would be a huge hit... and they likely would have printed up plenty of posters in preparation for that. As we all know, that didn't happen and BR bombed at the box office. It sure seems likely that the extra posters handed out to cable companies and video stores could have just been extra stock. I'm sure if someone was around back that and saw the studio pulling out stacks and stacks of unused posters that they could have easily assumed they were freshly printed, but that may have not been the case.

That is all admittedly rampant speculation on my part, but based on the numbers of past sales it doesn't appear at first glance that BR posters are available in any significantly greater quantities than Ford's other most comparable film from the same time period.

On sale on ebay (US originals) right now:

13 BR (one sheet only)
5 Raiders ('81 one sheets only)

The approximate proportion varies greatly over time as you would expect, but I would estimate this is fairly representative since the beginning of eBay.

CSM · « **Reply #77 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:52:05 AM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 05, 2012, 12:22:58 AM

I meant a confirmed rolled vs. a confirmed folded -- they should be identical minus the folds.

Well that makes more sense

Harry Caul · « **Reply #78 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:59:15 AM »

Quote from: archie leach on March 05, 2012, 01:29:10 AM

On sale on ebay (US originals) right now:

13 BR (one sheet only)
5 Raiders ('81 one sheets only)

The approximate proportion varies greatly over time as you would expect, but I would estimate this is fairly representative since the beginning of eBay.

Weren't you also the one who said just two short days ago...

Quote from: archie leach on March 03, 2012, 05:15:56 PM

I would caution against misconstruing what you see for sale versus what exists.

I'm just sayin'

CineMasterpieces · « **Reply #79 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:16:02 PM »

Interesting thread.

Mel, mind if I add those Blade Runner pics to our site for reference?

and just to clarify:

We had one consignor with hundreds of ROLLED one sheets and half sheets who worked at Continental litho during the 70's to early 80s.

We had ANOTHER consignor who was a studio executive from 1968-72 that had access to an nss facility where he pulled out ROLLED one sheets and kept them each time he visited.

We have had two consignors who used to work at Gore Graphics that had lots of rolled Printer's Proofs from the 70's and 80's.

and......starting in our eBay NO RESERVE auctions this Thursday we have a folded NM-M C9-C10 Blade Runner one sheet.

Larger photo: http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/aucpics2011/db12.jpg

archie leach · « **Reply #80 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:46:49 PM »

Quote from: CineMasterpieces on March 05, 2012, 04:16:02 PM

Interesting thread.

Mel, mind if I add those Blade Runner pics to our site for reference?

and just to clarify:

We had one consignor with hundreds of ROLLED one sheets and half sheets who worked at Continental litho during the 70's to early 80s.

We had ANOTHER consignor who was a studio executive from 1968-72 that had access to an nss facility where he pulled out ROLLED one sheets and kept them each time he visited.

We have had two consignors who used to work at Gore Graphics that had lots of rolled Printer's Proofs from the 70's and 80's.

Well, that adds almost nothing to the discussion...

Ari · « **Reply #81 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:48:53 PM »

except making me want to start my THEY ARENT PRINTERS PROOFS rant

CSM · « **Reply #82 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:55:18 PM »

Quote from: archie leach on March 05, 2012, 07:46:49 PM

Well, that adds almost nothing to the discussion...

And Dave, can you confirm which one of those consignors provided the rolled V3 you've sold?

I am assuming the Continental litho employee based on your post and Matt's earlier post.

CineMasterpieces · « **Reply #83 on:** March 05, 2012, 10:30:46 PM »

Yes, that is correct.

Dread_Pirate_Mel · « **Reply #84 on:** March 05, 2012, 10:42:34 PM »

Quote from: CineMasterpieces on March 05, 2012, 04:16:02 PM

Interesting thread.

Mel, mind if I add those Blade Runner pics to our site for reference?

and......starting in our eBay NO RESERVE auctions this Thursday we have a folded NM-M C9-C10 Blade Runner one sheet.

Sure, no prob. And the folds on the one you are auctioning are not really distracting, so who needs a rolled copy anyway....

CSM · « **Reply #85 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:04:13 PM »

Quote from: CineMasterpieces on March 05, 2012, 10:30:46 PM

Yes, that is correct.

Thanks.

Harry Caul · « **Reply #86 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 05, 2012, 10:42:34 PM

Sure, no prob. And the folds on the one you are auctioning are not really distracting, so who needs a rolled copy anyway....

I never thought I would hear you say that Mel!

CSM · « **Reply #87 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:13:22 PM »

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 05, 2012, 10:42:34 PM

Sure, no prob. And the folds on the one you are auctioning are not really distracting, so who needs a rolled copy anyway....

I do - once we figure out collectively which is likely to stand the most chance of being authentic

archie leach · « **Reply #88 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:24:39 PM »

Quote from: CSM on March 05, 2012, 11:13:22 PM

I do - once we figure out collectively which is likely to stand the most chance of being authentic

The 30x40...

CSM · « **Reply #89 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:25:46 PM »

Quote from: archie leach on March 05, 2012, 11:24:39 PM

The 30x40...

Yes, yes I know. I am trying to have my $ cake and eat it too though.

Dread_Pirate_Mel · « **Reply #90 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:27:26 PM »

If the Version 3 "Odd NSS" is legit - which it appears to be based on info from Dave - it's certainly not hard to find a rolled one on Ebay from a generally reputable dealer. I'd get it and send it to MPGrading....

CSM · « **Reply #91 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:31:59 PM »

Quote from: Dread_Pirate_Mel on March 05, 2012, 11:27:26 PM

If the Version 3 "Odd NSS" is legit - which it appears to be based on info from Dave - it's certainly not hard to find a rolled one on Ebay from a generally reputable dealer. I'd get it and send it to MPGrading....

It is weird that the V3 would turn out to be the legit rolled version when (on the surface at least) it is the one that most looks like a bootleg

Harry Caul · « **Reply #92 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:39:28 PM »

Quote from: CSM on March 05, 2012, 11:31:59 PM

It is weird that the V3 would turn out to be the legit rolled version when (on the surface at least) it is the one that most looks like a bootleg

But also the least common...

V1 HA+eMovie = 24
V2 HA+eMovie = 38
V3 HA+eMovie = 14

CSM · « **Reply #93 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 05, 2012, 11:39:28 PM

But also the least common...

V1 HA+eMovie = 24
V2 HA+eMovie = 38
V3 HA+eMovie = 14

Matt - I thought we concluded there are no known examples of a rolled V1?

Ari · « **Reply #94 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:47:14 PM »

are fake Blade Runner posters called REPLICANTS?

CSM · « **Reply #95 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:50:22 PM »

Quote from: Ari on March 05, 2012, 11:47:14 PM

are fake Blade Runner posters called REPLICANTS?

If not, perhaps the should be. Then we can all be Blade Runners!

How's that for embracing the inner poster/cinema nerd?

Harry Caul · « **Reply #96 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:29:51 AM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 05, 2012, 11:39:28 PM

But also the least common...

V1 HA+eMovie = 24
V2 HA+eMovie = 38
V3 HA+eMovie = 14

This should be a sum of rolled and folded for each of the three styles. I didn't include the ones without photos at eMovie as we can't determine the style.

I'm just saying that if V3 is a bootleg, you'd think we'd see more of them...

archie leach · « **Reply #97 on:** March 06, 2012, 05:11:16 AM »

Quote from: Harry Caul on March 06, 2012, 12:29:51 AM

This should be a sum of rolled and folded for each of the three styles. I didn't include the ones without photos at eMovie as we can't determine the style.

I'm just saying that if V3 is a bootleg, you'd think we'd see more of them...

Unless they were the over-run...

Dun-dun-dun!!!

theartofmovieposters · « **Reply #98 on:** March 06, 2012, 06:01:43 AM »

Very interesting read...I'm glad I'm not that anal about condition and got my folded one donkey's years ago.

And archie...your new avatar is FREAKING ME OUT.

brude · « **Reply #99 on:** March 06, 2012, 07:40:38 AM »

Quote from: theartofmovieposters on March 06, 2012, 06:01:43 AM

Very interesting read...I'm glad I'm not that anal about condition and got my folded one donkey's years ago.

You and me both. What a nightmare.

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Author Topic: Blade Runner 27x41 1982 US or International Rolled Reprints? (Read 64603 times)

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