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« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2012, 08:56:09 AM » |
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Then I'll agree with Rich. I don't care. Folds are part of the making of a poster. If it was folded, I want it folded.
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« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2012, 09:38:49 AM » |
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+1. Even if a poster has a rolled studio or fan club release, I will prefer the folded NSS 1 sheet. I kind of consider the others repros, although licensed ones.
I am a bit confused as to why a studio issued poster would be a repro? If they sent them to theaters to be hung arent they then by definition authentic movie posters? Are there posters the studios made just to sell at retail? If so is there a way to determine that? I agree about folds. I know it is the obvious but if the posters were made that way then that is the way they were made and it does not bother me at all.
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« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2012, 11:40:16 AM » |
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Basically I know that an NSS poster from the transition era was meant to be theater displayed. I am never sure about studio posters, what with fan club versions and later promotional releases.
It has never made sense to me that a studio would release half the production run as NSS and the other half as direct ship. Internationals, yes, but not US distribution. I realize it was a time of transition, but I also think we are rationalizing and hoping that these rolled posters are something they really aren't.
That's why I prefer folded NSS.
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« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2012, 01:50:02 PM » |
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Basically I know that an NSS poster from the transition era was meant to be theater displayed. I am never sure about studio posters, what with fan club versions and later promotional releases.
It has never made sense to me that a studio would release half the production run as NSS and the other half as direct ship. Internationals, yes, but not US distribution. I realize it was a time of transition, but I also think we are rationalizing and hoping that these rolled posters are something they really aren't.
That's why I prefer folded NSS.
The early 80s studio vs. NSS posters don't make sense to me either... but I can assure you that the studio posters did get to theater owners. I have bought several stashes from theater employees and I've actually gotten a higher percentage of studio posters than NSS posters. Again, I don't know why, but they are most definitely theater posters. As for fan club versions, those are usually separate (usually identifiable) printings and are normally noted and priced as such. The only exception I can think of is the SW dated Revenge poster that was sold through the fan club network, but it wasn't a special fan club printing. It was a theater issue poster that was never released due to the name change.
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« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2012, 02:33:19 PM » |
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The early 80s studio vs. NSS posters don't make sense to me either... but I can assure you that the studio posters did get to theater owners. I have bought several stashes from theater employees and I've actually gotten a higher percentage of studio posters than NSS posters. Again, I don't know why, but they are most definitely theater posters.
Yes, that is my experience as well. If there is a choice between having an unfolded or a folded version of the same poster from the early 1980's I would always want the unfolded one - I make no distinction between studio or NSS for that period - and would pay a premium if necessary. For earlier years, with a few exceptions, I expect posters to be folded and I prefer them in that state (if the condition is OK) to those that have been linen-backed. Mark
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« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2012, 07:21:01 PM » |
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I really do not care if it is rolled vs folded. However, paper loss and extra creasing is a different story.
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« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2012, 07:51:16 PM » |
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Everything after 89' must be rolled, and hunt the rolled stuff back to about 82', prior to that, folded it fine.
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« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2012, 09:15:14 PM » |
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It doesn't make a difference to me. I actually slightly prefer the look of folded posters in a frame. It makes a collecting a little easier for me.
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« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2012, 09:24:59 PM » |
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Clearly my entire point of my original post has been missed. Paul came the closest to actually responding but he didn't give any examples of what he was talking about. The two posters in my examples were from 81 and 82. This is well before the "all posters started to be rolled" era. If you closely look at my original post, I was asking about what posters (scream: EXAMPLES) are you hesitant to buy, but when you come/came across a rolled version, then you decide/ed to pull the trigger. Obviously this would only apply to the era where rolled posters are somewhat rare, i.e. early 80's. Again, this is not about what you PREFER rolled or folded (I believe THAT issue has been discussed about 407 times), or about what years you only buy rolled. It's about what specific examples of posters/artwork have you been on the fence about only to find a, rare, rolled version that was able to force your hand. I can't believe this is my third post explaining what I meant, but let me guess, you all "knew what I meant but decided to post other non-replies instead"?
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2012, 01:50:37 AM » |
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I'm off to work at the moment, but will post some pics when I get home...
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« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2012, 01:52:04 AM » |
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I'm off to work at the moment, but will post some pics when I get home...
Thanks. Titles would also have done, but thanks for the discussion.
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« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2012, 01:59:44 AM » |
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Clearly my entire point of my original post has been missed. Paul came the closest to actually responding but he didn't give any examples of what he was talking about. The two posters in my examples were from 81 and 82. This is well before the "all posters started to be rolled" era. If you closely look at my original post, I was asking about what posters (scream: EXAMPLES) are you hesitant to buy, but when you come/came across a rolled version, then you decide/ed to pull the trigger. Obviously this would only apply to the era where rolled posters are somewhat rare, i.e. early 80's. Again, this is not about what you PREFER rolled or folded (I believe THAT issue has been discussed about 407 times), or about what years you only buy rolled. It's about what specific examples of posters/artwork have you been on the fence about only to find a, rare, rolled version that was able to force your hand. I can't believe this is my third post explaining what I meant, but let me guess, you all "knew what I meant but decided to post other non-replies instead"?
ok, i'll say it again - Werewolf of London. wasn't sure I wanted it, saw it rolled, decided I did and was able to get it for a nice price.
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« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2012, 02:02:52 AM » |
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ok, i'll say it again - Werewolf of London. wasn't sure I wanted it, saw it rolled, decided I did and was able to get it for a nice price.
I missed your post. Sweet deal! That's actually one of the posters that I've been "borderline" on for many years. I think the art is "ok", but the film is awesome. That would be one that I would have to find not only rolled, but also for a steal like yours was.
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« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2012, 03:38:14 AM » |
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Chop, I also think that from around your time period and at least the prior decade, on any inserts I would hold out for rolled. Lots of times I think inserts have the best layout/artwork and they are definitely worth hunting down rolled if you have the patience.
Nightmare on Elm Street is another from that period where my rolled one-sheet got damaged, and I've been too cheap to pay top price for another rolled one, but I won't replace it with a folded copy.
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« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2012, 04:01:16 AM » |
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Clearly my entire point of my original post has been missed. Paul came the closest to actually responding but he didn't give any examples of what he was talking about. The two posters in my examples were from 81 and 82. This is well before the "all posters started to be rolled" era. If you closely look at my original post, I was asking about what posters (scream: EXAMPLES) are you hesitant to buy, but when you come/came across a rolled version, then you decide/ed to pull the trigger. Obviously this would only apply to the era where rolled posters are somewhat rare, i.e. early 80's. Again, this is not about what you PREFER rolled or folded (I believe THAT issue has been discussed about 407 times), or about what years you only buy rolled. It's about what specific examples of posters/artwork have you been on the fence about only to find a, rare, rolled version that was able to force your hand. I can't believe this is my third post explaining what I meant, but let me guess, you all "knew what I meant but decided to post other non-replies instead"?
Chop I think your understanding of the responses is off-base because to most of us, we don't have singular titles that we are looking for rolled, if we also collect folded. I literally do not care if a poster is rolled or folded. Ergo, I cannot answer "I will only take poster A rolled and I don't care about poster B being rolled or folded" This is the same position held by Thierry and others. The only qualification I might have is that if it's a modern era poster and it is easily available rolled, then my preference would be to get that poster rolled. If it's a modern poster that is incredibly rare and isn't seen rolled, then folded is just fine. those are all correct answers to your question, even if the answers aren't framed how you thought they should be
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« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2012, 11:51:51 AM » |
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Well if we don't need pics.... A classic example is My Nightmare on Elm st Quad is folded, if I wanted to up grade to a rolled, and there is a few out there. I would have to be paying £250-350 to get one. Which I would not do, I'm happy enough with a folded one. Same with the 81 release Quad of Night of the Living Dead, I have 3 all folded. I had the chance to up grade a couple of times, but wasn't prepared to pay the £200 to do so, I'm happy with the ones I've got. Now if a Dance of the Vampires Quad turned up rolled, would I up grade......depending on price, Yes. And my folded one would go in a frame permanently. Same with Pit and the Pendulum, if a rolled one turned up and the price was reasonable I'd buy it.....Then again it's that scarce, I'd buy a tatty folded one, just to have another....
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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2012, 11:52:15 AM » |
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I think your understanding of the responses is off-base because to most of us, we don't have singular titles that we are looking for rolled, if we also collect folded. I literally do not care if a poster is rolled or folded. Ergo, I cannot answer "I will only take poster A rolled and I don't care about poster B being rolled or folded"
This is the same position held by Thierry and others. The only qualification I might have is that if it's a modern era poster and it is easily available rolled, then my preference would be to get that poster rolled. If it's a modern poster that is incredibly rare and isn't seen rolled, then folded is just fine.
those are all correct answers to your question, even if the answers aren't framed how you thought they should be
+1 I'm a treasure hunter. I can probably find 3-5 folded examples on eBay right now for nearly any 80s title I'm looking for... they aren't rare and it simply isn't a challange. Rolled posters are harder to find (and often even harder to authenticate), which is why they are so much more expensive. Sean listed a perfect example with NOES. You can find a folded copy on eBay for probably $75-$100 (maybe even cheaper). However, rolled ones are super rare, especially in good condition. I bet the one in Bruce's auction this Sunday goes for $400+. That said, if you are patient and do your homework (like me and I'm sure others here)... you can score a rolled copy in NM condition for $62.05  Other than that, sorry but I'm not providing any specific examples of rolled posters that I'm actively looking for. That would be dumb.
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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2012, 11:56:47 AM » |
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Well if we don't need pics.... A classic example is My Nightmare on Elm st Quad is folded, if I wanted to up grade to a rolled, and there is a few out there. I would have to be paying £250-350 to get one. Which I would not do, I'm happy enough with a folded one. Same with the 81 release Quad of Night of the Living Dead, I have 3 all folded. I had the chance to up grade a couple of times, but wasn't prepared to pay the £200 to do so, I'm happy with the ones I've got. Now if a Dance of the Vampires Quad turned up rolled, would I up grade......depending on price, Yes. And my folded one would go in a frame permanently. Same with Pit and the Pendulum, if a rolled one turned up and the price was reasonable I'd buy it.....Then again it's that scarce, I'd buy a tatty folded one, just to have another.... Quads are definitely a different story as I've seen rolled quads that are from the 50s even. I'm sure there are probably Bond collectors out there with complete sets of rolled quads. They are rare, but they do exist. Not really the same story for 1-sheets. By the way Paul, if you can find a rolled NOES quad for 250 GBP... LET ME KNOW! The last few I've seen sell (even in obscure auctions) went for at least 350, some of which even hit 500 GBP!
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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2012, 12:01:18 PM » |
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Harry, I wish you had asked me that last month. A collector friend of mine sold his rolled one for £250, and he was over the moon with the price he got. He did ask me, but no way was I paying that just to up grade....
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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2012, 01:09:33 PM » |
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Harry, I wish you had asked me that last month. A collector friend of mine sold his rolled one for £250, and he was over the moon with the price he got. He did ask me, but no way was I paying that just to up grade.... Hi Paul, if any of your collector friends are selling a NOES quad in the future, I'd be interested! Thanks
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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2012, 01:15:27 PM » |
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Man, I wish I'd picked more of these up back in the late 80's when I bought mine. I begrudgingly paid £10..... Oh well. All in hindsight.
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« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2012, 01:22:37 PM » |
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£10...sigh, wish I had a time machine. Thanks Paul! 
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« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2012, 01:23:46 PM » |
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I have a tri-folded NOES. To me, I got a great deal on it. I think it was around $224. It was about the same price as the folded one sheets were selling for and at that point I had never seen a rolled version. I thought it was a perfect price for not having the vertical fold. Not to mention I don't like the art enough to pay a gazillion dollars for a rolled one when it does come up, like right now on emovieposter. Of the "big five" slashers, these are the ones I have and they follow the poster timelines for rolled/folded nicely:
1) TCM Folded 2) Halloween Folded 3) Friday the 13th Folded 4) NOES Tri-Folded 5) Hellraiser Rolled
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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2012, 05:19:39 PM » |
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I have a tri-folded NOES. To me, I got a great deal on it. I think it was around $224. It was about the same price as the folded one sheets were selling for and at that point I had never seen a rolled version. I thought it was a perfect price for not having the vertical fold. Not to mention I don't like the art enough to pay a gazillion dollars for a rolled one when it does come up, like right now on emovieposter. Of the "big five" slashers, these are the ones I have and they follow the poster timelines for rolled/folded nicely:
1) TCM Folded 2) Halloween Folded 3) Friday the 13th Folded 4) NOES Tri-Folded 5) Hellraiser Rolled
I too have a tri-fold NOES (paid $100). I also have a folded Halloween and a rolled Hellraiser.  I'm sure when I get a Friday 1 and TCM they will be folded.
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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2012, 05:24:40 PM » |
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I too have a tri-fold NOES (paid $100). I also have a folded Halloween and a rolled Hellraiser.  I'm sure when I get a Friday 1 and TCM they will be folded. You've almost completed the big five! BTW, how did you manage to get a tri-fold NOES for only $100? You can't even fiind a folded copy for that price. Was yours in good condition?
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