Linen backing dilemma....

[paul waines]

If you had a poster that needed linen backing (we all know the why's, and where for's ), but you can't find another example, and you know there is some writing missing but don't know what it is..... Do you leave it, or get it done?
I don't want to send it back again if this info comes to light to be added later, so do I just wait??

The poster has a corner missing, and on the corner would be some Printers info. This will annoy me if I look at it restored and it's not there. I want to frame it, and Hang it so...

Any suggestions will be greatly received...  

[jayn_j]

Well, there is a whole school that advocates backing without restoration.  Intent is to stabilize what is there, but not to create "fake" material.

I think that's what I would do, or perhaps just clean up the fold lines at most.

[paul waines]

The missing corner is quite a piece, about 4" X 4" maybe a touch more, it will not look quite the ticket with it missing, while in a frame.

I would like this to look right as it maybe the only one in existence.... 

[Charlie]

Pressbook?

[CSM]

I'd wait unless the poster is in danger of disintegrating complete in the interim.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I'd take a colored piece of cray paper & make a concept art piece that my friends would adore

[paul waines]

Looked for the press-book Charlie, it's as scarce as the poster...

It's not going to fall apart Chris, it's in reasonable nick for a 1948 poster.

I am sending a poster to be backed that needs it, and was hoping to save postage by sending the two at once...
I may have to wait longer, which is a shame as we've just done the living room and dining room
and it will go well on the wall...

[paul waines]

I'd take a colored piece of cray paper & make a concept art piece that my friends would adore

MMM... That's not a bad idea Rich...

[brude]

Well Paul, if you provide, the title, style, etc.... even a pic...maybe someone out here can provide the missing info...
I assume that you have already bought it, so no one should be able to jump on it...

[paul waines]

I have had the poster quite a while Ted, and have posted it on here asking for the same info. No one seems to know anything about it other than what I've told them. And quite a few have researched it for me, and Have drew a blank...

It's a Quad from Loonies on Broadway, or Zombies on broadway in the U.S.  It was submitted to the BBFC in Oct 1948 as Zombies, but was refused on the Zombie title, so was re-submitted in the December of 1948 with the Loonies title and was passed as an "A"cert.

Can't find the pics on my laptop, must be on the other computer, I'll go look and post them shortly...

[paul waines]

Found this One pic, don't know where the other two are, but you can see where it needs it...




Back in the days of Yore, distributors only required the Cinema's to send a corner off a poster as "confirmation" they had
been destroyed, to save on postage......Such crazy times.

Oh, and my "guess" at the printers was Waterlow and Sons...

Any info, or a press-book from anyone would be Jollyfine.

[quadbod]

Hi, Paul!

Do you have any other posters with a Waterlow & Sons printer's credit?  We've only ever seen their name on front of house stills.

Best wishes,

Terry - www.quadbod.co.uk

[paul waines]

To be honest Terry I can't say I have from memory, what put that in mind was I'm sure Waterlow's name was on a F.O.H. Still for this title I bid on way back, so assumed they may have printed both poster and stills. Why go to two printers!  As I said it was a Guess...  I just keep drawing blanks with this poster.

Now you've said that, I may have a dig through some early stuff and have a look.

A question that may get us nearer, which printer/s did most of RKO'S U.K. posters in the late 30's to the late 40's....? 

Anyone???

[stewart boyle]

Paul,much of the bottom corner text seems to be nearly identical to the US 1 sheet,could the red just extend to the bottom corner~?,the missing names are Frank Jenks and the text "screenplay by Lawrence Kimble"..
Apparently Waterlow & Sons did alot of posters for British Rail back in the days,maybe a scout around for some of these may give an example of Printers texts.. just a thought..

Stew

[paul waines]

Hello Stew, hope you had a jolly Christmas.

I have all the cast info, which is the easy bit, and the resto would be all Typographical so an easy fix, I'd of thought. I do know from other posters I have, Printers info would be on the bottom right of this poster. The one final piece of the puzzle. Plus it would be good to know just for the information point of view, plus I have another RKO poster from 1940 that needs doing so when I get to that....  

Yes, this coming year is the year I get my to do pile sorted...

[stewart boyle]

I`m following you now.
Your not 100% sure it was Waterlow & Sons ?
Will have another look tonight..

Stew

[paul waines]

No, as I say it was a guess. Terry says they didn't do posters, which maybe true.
It's funny how some things you don't notice until you need info....

No wonder the Yanks are terrified of Quads...

[Charlie]

My bet is Stafford & Co.

A few photos I snagged for RKO and UK... Click for larger image...

1943 - Stafford & Co.


1946 - Stafford & Co.


1947 - Stafford & Co.


1948 - Leonard Ripley & Co.

[paul waines]

Jollyfine work Charlie, I don't know where you got images that size....

Stafford and Co does look a good bet, you would have thought Distributors
would have been a bit more loyal to their Printers...
It does seem one film campaign may have had several printers
working on different parts of the advertising.

I've checked a few press-books, and they only give the printers name who
printed the press-book, so we can rule that out.

[Charlie]

Jollyfine work Charlie, I don't know where you got images that size....

Heritage....