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« on: October 18, 2011, 06:36:51 PM » |
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 06:51:33 PM » |
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Screw the DVD, its on blu-ray!  |
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 08:28:28 PM » |
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Well I guess if you're into that sort of thing...
There is probably no point to buying the Blu-ray - really think the print will look any better? Unless there are some nice extras?
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 08:44:39 PM » |
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I would imagine it would look better on a big screen, film resolution (35mm) is still around 40 times higher resolution than High Def. Even if the original is a bit worse for wear I think it can only be better on Blu-ray than DVD
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 08:50:42 PM » |
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I would imagine it would look better on a big screen, film resolution (35mm) is still around 40 times higher resolution than High Def. Even if the original is a bit worse for wear I think it can only be better on Blu-ray than DVD
I have an 8' screen for my projector... DVDs are ok, but not great. My wife thinks I'm crazy, but I barely watch any of my DVDs anymore. It pisses her off that I make her wait a few days for the BR to arrive from Netflix! |
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 09:01:09 PM » |
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I am just wondering how a film not shot in digital or HD could possibly look perceivably better on Blu-ray?
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 09:12:39 PM » |
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I am just wondering how a film not shot in digital or HD could possibly look perceivably better on Blu-ray?
Because it is shot on film which is much higher definition than dvd or bluray. Think of how many pixels are in each row or column in dvd/bluray, and then how many film grains there are on film... many, many times more From memory DVD is about 600 pixels high and HD about 1000. The information in film (stored in each film grain) is much higher resolution. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 09:28:33 PM » |
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Because it is shot on film which is much higher definition than dvd or bluray. Think of how many pixels are in each row or column in dvd/bluray, and then how many film grains there are on film... many, many times more
From memory DVD is about 600 pixels high and HD about 1000. The information in film (stored in each film grain) is much higher resolution.
Even grainy deteriorated nitrate film from 1932 Steve? I am clearly not an expert in this field... |
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 09:36:27 PM » |
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Even grainy deteriorated nitrate film from 1932 Steve?
I am clearly not an expert in this field...
I guess it can only look better than dvd as it wouldn't look worse - maybe with the more recent bluray release they could try to tidy up the print further (maybe newer editing technologies available now). The gains might only be noticed on larger screens |
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 09:42:26 PM » |
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Even grainy deteriorated nitrate film from 1932 Steve?
I am clearly not an expert in this field...
I have some Buster Keaton films from the 20s/30s on Blu-Ray that look stunning... way better than DVD. It does depend on the quality of the surviving source prints though. If they aren't in good condition then, no, it won't look much different between Blu-Ray and DVD. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 09:46:15 PM » |
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I have some Buster Keaton films from the 20s/30s on Blu-Ray that look stunning... way better than DVD. It does depend on the quality of the surviving source prints though. If they aren't in good condition then, no, it won't look much different between Blu-Ray and DVD.
This is pretty much what I am getting at - if the source is shit (and it is not restored) higher resolution is not going to make it look better. That said, if it is a Criterion release presumably they have done a very thorough restoration. Looking forward to it that's for sure (even on plebeian DVD)... |
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 10:03:53 PM » |
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DVD or BR, I am truly excited about this release. One of my favorite horror films of the Golden Age. My smile is stretching from ear to ear, a la MR. SARDONICUS...  Thanks for the tip, Chris. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 10:04:29 PM » |
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Yeah, Criterion usually tracks down the best source available... then they start restoring from there. Fingers crossed...
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 11:49:06 AM » |
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The difference between celluloid film and blu-ray is vast. I had just finished repairing one of my 16mm projectors, and was running a film through it, just an old T.V. episode of Kung-fu. My T.V. a full HD set was on playing a blu disc next to the screen, and the 16mm print was by far a superior image. And 35mm is over 4 times better than 16mm.
Do you use a full HD Projector Harry? I do, and also my blu-ray player up-scales dvd's and on decent quality discs, is an exceptional picture, and I use a 10 foot screen. My old Universals are fantastic through it...
I already have IOLS on dvd, so will most likely pick up the blu disc if it comes out on that.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 01:08:55 PM » |
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The difference between celluloid film and blu-ray is vast. I had just finished repairing one of my 16mm projectors, and was running a film through it, just an old T.V. episode of Kung-fu. My T.V. a full HD set was on playing a blu disc next to the screen, and the 16mm print was by far a superior image. And 35mm is over 4 times better than 16mm.
Do you use a full HD Projector Harry? I do, and also my blu-ray player up-scales dvd's and on decent quality discs, is an exceptional picture, and I use a 10 foot screen. My old Universals are fantastic through it...
I already have IOLS on dvd, so will most likely pick up the blu disc if it comes out on that.
My projector is sadly only 720p. When I bought it a few years back, 1080p was still in the $5K+ range... now you can get them for $1K! Next time I need a new bulb I'll be upgrading... Of course by then there will be 4K projectors. Sigh. |
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