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« on: October 15, 2011, 12:35:29 PM » |
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Following on from the Mid-Auction thread I have measured the precise dimensions of the set of posters I acquired at the time of the film's release and the sets that were offered for some months later. The size of each poster in the earlier set is 26 7/8" x 39 13/16". The later sets have the exact same vertical dimension of 39 13/16" but all have lesser widths as follows:
Create a thick rich lather/Wash your feminine side clean off.
26 5/16"
Hand soap?
26 1/4"
Works great on blood stains.
26 1/16"
As I indicated earlier the printing and paper stocks appears identical with both sets. Here's a theory. What if Suncoast bought the remaining unused stock of wilding posters from the time of the film's release and trimmed off some existing edge damage prior to sale?
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 03:04:26 PM » |
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Mark.. I doubt Suncoast would bother doing such a thing, but it is entirely possible these got a second printing by the studio or distributor, or that they could be regional printings
it is unlikely that Suncoast printed them for sale at a later date as theatres are only concerned for sales of movies currently in distribution. Fight Club did not last 6 months in release (more like 2-3), moreover, these would not be likely to be the designs they would be looking to retail. The Character posters would be those.
so either they are second printings (most likely I think) that were not distributed because the film was leaving the theatres (presuming the quality is 100% the same as originals) or total bootlegs. If the quality is the same, then they probably aren't bootlegs as they would otherwise need the authentic separations to make such high quality repros
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 07:17:43 PM » |
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From other thread... Mark Fight Club. I have an original set bought at the time of the film's release and sets from the "second wave" - I forget when these first appeared. The only difference I can ascertain is that the original set is 3/4" wider (they are both the same height). The quality of printing and the paper stock appears to be the same. Could these not just be from a second print run rather than reproductions? Me Very good to know. The second wave was sometime after the Doc Ock controversy (same sellers). Actually, that size difference, which is pretty significant, would lead me to believe that the second wave were more likely reprints. According to Dan, 1/4" or less variations are generally common. 3/4" means that something else is up. At the very least, being that much smaller is definitely a warning sign... Wonka Re: Fight Club wilding/teasers
I distinctly remember seeing these wrapped up against cardboard in the racks at Suncoast a month or so after the film came out. All of these variations were there, and at the time, there were about 4 of each...all with the Suncoast gold sticker seal of "Official Movie Poster" (which to the collector should mean "Don't Buy This Unless You Have Plans For Your Dorm Wall").
Take that for what its worth. Wonka - longer version Yes, this was in 1999. I remember it vividly, it was my Junior/Senior year at Purdue. Just one of those random memories I remember, but at that time my roommate and I were really into the film, and we were at Suncoast with my girlfriend at that time and my roommate was literally going to buy one of each and put them all on a single wall. He was really wanting one to have the slogan "You are NOT your Fucking Khakis" and was dismayed that that particular slogan didn't make the cut, haha. But food and beer money beat out a bunch of Fight Club soap posters, and at the time, rightfully so.
Another reason I pull from the past in this regard in terms of clarity is because I see my roommate once a year in Indianapolis for the Big Ten tournament. This past March, he brought up how he still loves the film (which brought up a Fincher discussion/debate) but regrets never buying those posters. Being the poster nerd that I am, I told him I would try to track down a set for him. This is the first set I have seen since, and have already sent the auction links to him. Doubt he even bids, his wife has him on a short lea$h.
I digress, apologies for the random and extra info, but I am certain in seeing those images at Suncoast 11 years ago. Me again BTW, the Fight Club/Suncoast issue is one well worth bringing up again... I was under the impression that Suncoast reprinted their own posters, SS and slightly smaller than originals (I know they sold 27x40 Star Wars A & C's, but more recent reprints were closer in size to the originals). If that's the case, then there would have been a second printing of the FC wildings, as Mark's info suggests, sometime just after the time of release. Suncoast passed through several hands and bankruptcy in '05 and '06 and I could certainly see them liquidating old stock at some point, which could account for the second wave hitting around that time. I would also add that Fight Club, along with being a huge cult hit, was a huge DVD hit - one of the first must haves, along with The Matrix - that I'm sure Suncaost marketed for quite a while (anywhere up to a year out). Considering the fanboy enthusiasm for this film, I think that Suncoast would have retailed anything that they could get their hands on. Also, considering the relatively easier availability of the single-sided character posters, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they were available at Suncoast, as well as SS versions of the regular one sheet. |
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 07:34:46 PM » |
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Following on from the Mid-Auction thread I have measured the precise dimensions of the set of posters I acquired at the time of the film's release and the sets that were offered for some months later. The size of each poster in the earlier set is 26 7/8" x 39 13/16".
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As I indicated earlier the printing and paper stocks appears identical with both sets. Here's a theory. What if Suncoast bought the remaining unused stock of wilding posters from the time of the film's release and trimmed off some existing edge damage prior to sale?
Thanks for doing this. You could chack the centering of the image. If they trimmed on one side, then it would throw the centering off... |
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 04:08:32 PM » |
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sorry im not having that there are repros of these posters. different print runs yes. never fakes.
p.s. thanks for the well wishes from a few members of the forum, means alot.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 05:00:09 PM » |
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sorry im not having that there are repros of these posters. different print runs yes. never fakes.
p.s. thanks for the well wishes from a few members of the forum, means alot.
Good for you. Care to actually help the discussion with some actual information? Considering that you sold/are selling one of these sets (I'm assuming a second wave set?) and have a vested interest, one would think that you might want to get to the bottom of these... http://www.amoviemasterpiece.co.uk/shop/article_Amm-149834/Fight-Club-'adv'.html?shop_param=cid%3D1%26aid%3DAmm-149834%26But, I guess, since Bruce doesn't give a crap either, then it's O.K.... More and more, I am leaning to this as the mostly likely explanation given what we know so far... BTW, the Fight Club/Suncoast issue is one well worth bringing up again... I was under the impression that Suncoast reprinted their own posters, SS and slightly smaller than originals (I know they sold 27x40 Star Wars A & C's, but more recent reprints were closer in size to the originals). If that's the case, then there would have been a second printing of the FC wildings, as Mark's info suggests, sometime just after the time of release. Suncoast passed through several hands and bankruptcy in '05 and '06 and I could certainly see them liquidating old stock at some point, which could account for the second wave hitting around that time. Does anyone have anything to dispute this? I have one Suncoast poster that I know of for the movie 29th Street, it's a tad bit smaller than the regular one-sheet. I also recall, from prior discussions on MPT, that if a poster came from Suncoast then it was a reprint. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 05:11:49 PM » |
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Good for you. Care to actually help the discussion with some actual information?
not now big mouth.. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 05:14:27 PM » |
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I'm assuming a second wave set?
what makes you assume anything. do yourself a favour, dont assume. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 05:15:36 PM » |
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not now big mouth..
what makes you assume anything. do yourself a favour dont assume.
useless... and classy! |
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2011, 05:19:04 PM » |
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useless... and classy!
i just cant be bothered with idiots with an attitude. its boring |
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2011, 05:21:18 PM » |
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i just cant be bothered with idiots with an attitude. its boring
Living with yourself must be difficult then... I am just trying to get to the bottom of the differences. You have had nothing to add both here and on NSFGE when this subject has been brought up. Either do so or stop spamming and let other people who may actuall be interested in the subject discuss it... |
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 05:22:19 PM » |
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Living with yourself must be difficult then...
very. im a complete wanker. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2011, 05:29:08 PM » |
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sorry have not even looked at that place for years.. and to be brutally honest, i didnt even know of a 2nd wave until i logged in today. so im quite interested in what people have to say about it, just suprises me because wouldnt they be readily available all over ebay etc... these just dont turn up often enough to be bootlegged in my opinion. i could be wrong. p.s. it was hardly spamming. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 05:38:01 PM » |
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Maybe it's my mistake, but, from the attitude, country of origin and poor typing/capitalization skills, I may have confused you with this posted a few years back on NSFGE... essexlad20123
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there in NO way there are reprints of the fight club advance's!!! Are you not one-in-the-same? |
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2011, 05:41:32 PM » |
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Maybe it's my mistake, but, from the attitude, country of origin and poor typing/capitalization skills, I may have confused you with this posted a few years back on NSFGE...
Are you not one-in-the-same?
Wow! but whats a post in 2008 got to do wit anything. if u wanna talk about something go to the chat room ill wait for ya.. |
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2011, 06:01:32 PM » |
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Wow! but whats a post in 2008 got to do wit anything. if u wanna talk about something go to the chat room ill wait for ya..
For some reason it's not letting me into the chat, but I have to go to a dinner soon anyway. The point I'm making is that when this subject has been brought up, you've been quick to dismiss, without adding anything else or giving a context for you opinion. Without either, it adds nothing to the conversation. Anyway, we can just drop it, but if you have anything you can add to the discussion, then I'd like to hear it... |
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2011, 06:03:36 PM » |
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i think you have to go to the home page then chat.. i had the same problem.
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