Post-auction analysis - OMGs!, LOLs!, WTFs!, whatev....

[50s]

Good spotting guys

[erik1925]

Found this auction result and article for John Alvin's original E.T. poster artwork, that was auctioned by Heritage on Oct, 12, 2016, with the art going for $394,000.00

Bravo, HA!!

http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/news/movie-memorabilia/john-alvins-e-t-poster-makes-394-000-at-auction/21825.page

[erik1925]

"70mmWIDESCREEN" dropped out on the Frankie 1947RR OS, which closed at $15,150.00 and was won by someone called "Va632499"

http://auctions.emovieposter.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=4667999

[eatbrie]

I don't collect stuff like this because I hate Frankenstein.  I just hate the creature.  I know, crazy right?  So I have no idea if 15k is a good price or not.  Seems low, no?

T

[Crazy Vick]

I don't collect stuff like this because I hate Frankenstein.  I just hate the creature.  I know, crazy right?  So I have no idea if 15k is a good price or not.  Seems low, no?

T

I think the "RR" is a bit of a turn off for the 10K+ class.  There's a mental barrier there that's tough to get past.  Snobs!

[erik1925]

Probably no different than most RR posters that can go for a lot less than their first release cousins.

[Monster_A_GoGo]

Do we know who 70mmWidescreen is? I tangoed with him/her tonight myself. I let several things go but got one thing on my list. Whoever he/she is, they have mighty deep pockets. Bravo to them. Wonder what else he/she has.

[Antoine1973]

I never cared for the Frankenstein 1947RR one-sheet, so I don't understand why it sells for that much money every time it shows up at auction.  I just don't think it's that good of an image, it looks like a cheap/tacky montage to me.  But then again, that's the way I feel about most of the Realart one-sheets too. 

[Neo]

Found this auction result and article for John Alvin's original E.T. poster artwork, that was auctioned by Heritage on Oct, 12, 2016, with the art going for $394,000.00

They had several other big sales that day.  This is the only other that went for 6 figures - a beautiful original from Mr. Frazetta, that sold for $346K.



https://fineart.ha.com/itm/illustration-art/frank-frazetta-american-1928-2010-red-planet-1974-oil-on-masonite-24-x-15625-in-signed-a/a/5269-71083.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

[erik1925]

I never cared for the Frankenstein 1947RR one-sheet, so I don't understand why it sells for that much money every time it shows up at auction.  I just don't think it's that good of an image, it looks like a cheap/tacky montage to me.  But then again, that's the way I feel about most of the Realart one-sheets too.

The quality went down on many OS, for sure, when the Realart RR were issued. But when one considers what original release OS can go for from the Uni Classic horror series from the 1930s and even the early 40s, these are a little more comfortable to swallow, price-wise, for many collectors, especially since Uni horror stuff seems to maintain quite well, for the most part.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I don't collect stuff like this because I hate Frankenstein.  I just hate the creature.  I know, crazy right?  So I have no idea if 15k is a good price or not.  Seems low, no?

T

should be 25k

[MoviePosterBid.com]

The quality went down on many OS, for sure, when the Realart RR were issued. But when one considers what original release OS can go for from the Uni Classic horror series from the 1930s and even the early 40s, these are a little more comfortable to swallow, price-wise, for many collectors, especially since Uni horror stuff seems to maintain quite well, for the most part.

oh please. in some cases the Realart paper is even better. It's more colorful quite often. In the case of my House of Dracula, I think the Realart is better than the original release, the Frankenstein 1sh image is spectacular and lobby cards for several titles have much better images

[50s]

Oh please, none of them look any good, I'd rather look at paint dry

 

[paul waines]

While it's not my favourite Frankenstein poster, I do still think it went cheap.. I wonder if this is the tide starting to turn on Uni-horror stuff....

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Oh please, none of them look any good, I'd rather look at paint dry

like anyone thinks you have any taste anyway
 

While it's not my favourite Frankenstein poster, I do still think it went cheap.. I wonder if this is the tide starting to turn on Uni-horror stuff....

the tide on that material turned in 2009-2010 coinciding with the economic collapse & the Haggard scandal which took lots of cash out of that market. It was also negatively affected by the exit of a well heeled collector in London. Since then, prices have remained stable, within some range. In the case of this Frankenstein poster, it's my opinion (the opinion of others) that it would have sold for it's fair value at Heritage. I think Sean could also have sold it, as I'm pretty sure he has a client looking for one. Similarly, I also have a buyer looking for one, and I think he may have saved himself $10k yesterday

[erik1925]

oh please. in some cases the Realart paper is even better. It's more colorful quite often. In the case of my House of Dracula, I think the Realart is better than the original release, the Frankenstein 1sh image is spectacular and lobby cards for several titles have much better images

If you read my post carefully, I didn't say ALL Realart examples went down in quality, I said a number of them did. 

As a matter of fact, I posted in another thread a number of days​ ago about the Realart 1947RR insert for Dracula, and commented specifically how wonderful it is.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

If you read my post carefully, I didn't say ALL Realart examples went down in quality, I said a number of them did. 

As a matter of fact, I posted in another thread a number of days​ ago about the Realart RR insert for Dracula, and commented specifically how wonderful it is.

I think the 1961 Dracula 1sh is among the best of them myself.
been tryin to snag one for years

[theegypt]

Sold by John Hazelton... this LB 3sheet for Bullitt, sold for $8950.00 (but it also shows on a sorting list that a Best Offer was accepted). In either case, a really nice result.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULLITT-STEVE-MCQUEEN-CAR-CHASE-CLASSIC-1968-3-SHEET-LINENBACKED-/162293364299?hash=item25c970364b%3Ag%3A7MkAAOSwo4pYNiQf&nma=true&si=4Zwn8Q8wxFUKu430opECu%252BYyqns%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

You can use this site to see what an item actually sold for when the best offer option is used.  Just copy and paste the url.
http://www.flippertools.com/tools/ebayOfferHistory/ebay-best-offer-actual-price.htm

The poster above sold for $7500
http://www.flippertools.com/tools/ebayOfferHistory/ebay-best-offer-actual-price.htm?itemId=162293364299

[guest4955]

In the case of this Frankenstein poster, it's my opinion (the opinion of others) that it would have sold for it's fair value at Heritage. I think Sean could also have sold it, as I'm pretty sure he has a client looking for one. Similarly, I also have a buyer looking for one, and I think he may have saved himself $10k yesterday

Rich, must you take such crass and unsubstantiated potshots at EMP/BH? The evidence:

HA last sold one of these in 2012 for the 2017 equivalent of $15,874:



EMP sold its one - the same condition as HA's (although lbacked) - for $15,150:

[CSM]

Don't forget the crass BP in the HA result   

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Rich, must you take such crass and unsubstantiated potshots at EMP/BH?

oh stuff it Mel, my opinion is my opinion & whether you like it or not, that doesn't change.
My opinion is that HA would have done better than 15k, period.

HA hasn't sold a copy of the poster in 5 years and would no doubt do very very well with one right now.

also, I know if direct sales since that are $25k, $29k & $45k, though clearly $45 would be an outlier in the current market.

I certainly know I wouldn't price one below $25k in any retail setting and Dave would probably be asking double that or more (in case you are planning on measuring prices by a Dave listing)

[Antoine1973]

Rich, in Jeff's defense, I'm the one who made the initial comment about not liking Realart OS (although I did qualify my statement by saying that I didn't like most of them as opposed to all of them).  I was thinking in particular of the enigmatic OS for the first release of Dracula's Daughter, which I find to be vastly superior to the garish and poorly designed 1949 Realart one-sheet for that same movie.  Same with the original poster for The Mummy when compared to the 1951 Realart version.  I guess I'm not a big fan of the brightly colored, cut-and-paste photo montage treatment of so many Realart posters.

I agree with Jeff's point though that Realart paper is a much more affordable option compared to what original release OS can go for from the Uni Classic horror series from the 1930s and even the early 40s.

[MoviePosterBid.com]

Rich, in Jeff's defense, I'm the one who made the initial comment about not liking Realart OS (although I did qualify my statement by saying that I didn't like most of them as opposed to all of them).  I was thinking in particular of the enigmatic OS for the first release of Dracula's Daughter, which I find to be vastly superior to the garish and poorly designed 1949 Realart one-sheet for that same movie.  Same with the original poster for The Mummy when compared to the 1951 Realart version.  I guess I'm not a big fan of the brightly colored, cut-and-paste photo montage treatment of so many Realart posters.

I agree with Jeff's point though that Realart paper is a much more affordable option compared to what original release OS can go for from the Uni Classic horror series from the 1930s and even the early 40s.

Antoine, the Realart Mummy poster is a poor cousin to the original one sheet.
But there are other posters where they can be more desirable. I have the House of Dracula Realart poster and I think it's way better than the original. Whether the Wolf Man one sheet is better or worse is a matter of taste. Of course, at the same time the posters for Bride & Son are certainly mediocre in comparison. Frankenstein meets the Wolf Man, House of Frankenstein, the Lon Chaney Mummy pics.. these are a matter of taste which one people prefer and as I mentioned earlier, the 1961 Dracula is a particular favorite, but then again, it's not a Realart poster (neither are the 1947 Frankenstein or Dracula, which are all Universal release posters)

[erik1925]

My mind is courtroom bound, I guess.   

Sean did mention, too, in the other thread and corrected my mistake, indicating that the '47RR Dracula insert was NOT Realart, but was re-released by Universal:

http://www.allposterforum.com/index.php/topic,5163.msg221704.html#msg221704

[erik1925]

You can use this site to see what an item actually sold for when the best offer option is used.  Just copy and paste the url.

http://www.flippertools.com/tools/ebayOfferHistory/ebay-best-offer-actual-price.htm

The poster above sold for $7500

http://www.flippertools.com/tools/ebayOfferHistory/ebay-best-offer-actual-price.htm?itemId=162293364299

Thanks for posting that site, url, theegypt. A handy site, for sure.