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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« on: January 03, 2010, 01:03:37 PM » |
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I have the (mis)fortune of owning several digital reproductions and 100% DS originals of several posters. I thought I'd post a few photos comparing them so that everyone can see the difference. The reproductions in general are of excellent quality. I purchased them from a movie poster store in Denver when I first started collecting in April 2009. (The owner does have a bare-bones website here). At the time I really didn't understand the concept of originals vs. reprints. I talked to the owner about his business. He told me that when he runs out of a particular title he places an order with his supplier (whom he did not name). He told me his supplier does not print additional posters until it receives a sufficient number of orders for a mass printing. Later I bought double-sided originals of these posters. You can distinguish the originals by the credits & small print text at the bottom. The credits and small text or logos on originals are sharp and solid. The reprints are produced by taking (or scanning) a picture of the original and then using that picture to make the posters. This cause credits and other small text or logos on the reprint to be a bit grainy or washed out. |
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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 01:11:46 PM » |
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Please free to post comparison photos of your repros vs. originals or add any info you have about digital reproductions.
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Juli
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 01:44:29 PM » |
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I'd love to see a Saving Private Ryan comparison.
~ Juli
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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 02:05:35 PM » |
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I'd love to see a Saving Private Ryan comparison.
~ Juli
SPR has been debated on other forums. I've got one of those questionable DS prints too. I don't believe the debate has been resolved - it doesn't seem it would be worth-while to reproduce a DS of that particular poster in mass quantities. |
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kovacs01
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 03:18:37 PM » |
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Good stuff Mel, I dont think those will be fooling anyone from now on.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 03:28:26 PM » |
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SPR has been debated on other forums. I've got one of those questionable DS prints too. I don't believe the debate has been resolved - it doesn't seem it would be worth-while to reproduce a DS of that particular poster in mass quantities.
it's probably been reproduced not because of it's value but because of it's salability for a time period after the film's release and the merging of the hobby and commercial reprint poster sales. Not a bootleg per se as in the case of Pulp Fiction LS made to sell fraudulently as originals |
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 05:12:46 PM » |
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I think the Advance was the one of those I heard of being bootlegged. From what I can remember, it carried a higher value as well.
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Juli
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 06:46:44 PM » |
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Slightly off topic, but I noticed reprints are made of posters like Twilight and the Dark Knight...not sure how valuable originals are, but are reprints mostly made because of value (and they want to rip people off) or because the reprints can be sold to people who don't care if it's original or not (they don't collect, they just want something nice to hang on their wall). I see lots of reprints of modern posters, so that's why I ask the question since recent posters usually aren't very valuable.
~ Juli
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 07:25:37 PM » |
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Places like moviegoods repro everything they can get their hands on .. But the newer stuff sells more quantity because its whats popular now .. so sell 100 of those at $20 and youre making a profit .. or you can work harder and try to make a reprint of an old poster (which is a lot more work if you want it to look, feel and smell right) .. and sell maybe a few? because they are 2-300 each and then youre dealing with collectors and they know what the real deal looks like and are typically much harder to fool.
But anyone that buys from moviegoods probably doesnt care what they get as long as they have that poster .. and they didnt have to pay $50 for it ..
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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 07:37:57 PM » |
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but are reprints mostly made because of value (and they want to rip people off) or because the reprints can be sold to people who don't care if it's original or not
99% of people have no idea that originals are available to buy. Until I stumbled into a movie poster store in April last year and then moved onto Ebay, I had no idea that you could go on Ebay (or anywhere else) and buy originals. Most people buy movie posters from Wal-Mart and are perfectly content with a 24x36 reprint they can stick on the wall. |
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Douchebag Cochran
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 08:15:29 AM » |
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Solid work, Mel. Thanks. Did you find that in each case the repro was slightly smaller or were some spot on in dimension?
Have you sent a line to Jeannie about adding these to MPA?
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kauaitx
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 08:26:50 AM » |
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Yes, Mel did, Carson, about 1-2 months ago actually, but I got really lame and dropped the ball on working out the details with Mel. His authentication on Jackie Brown is on my To Do List.
I'm feeling guilty leaving this hanging while I tended to other things. I'll get to it this week. I hope...
Jeannie
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Ari
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2010, 05:32:53 PM » |
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Repros sold as repros is fine, I sell at markets, and I tell ya, most people couldn't care if it was original or not, they want the art, some movie they love or image, or actor, or whatever, not everyone cares about the history, and thats fine, if you enjoy it, go for it.
Personally I like old shit, I dont want a new table from Ikea and scratch it up and beat it around to make it look old, ill find a table off the side of the street, that is old, just my taste.
Same with posters, I like older stuff, gloss does nothing for me.
When I sell at the markets, I make some $ sometimes, but theres another guy who sells framed laser prints that look perfect, and he churns them out.
SO..... Id say most people dont care, if it looks nice, thats all that matters.
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Zorba
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2010, 11:13:00 PM » |
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Solid work, Mel. Thanks. Did you find that in each case the repro was slightly smaller or were some spot on in dimension?
Im going through all the threads and this question sticks out. The more I learn the less I am sure of. Were the repros the same size or slightly smaller?  ?? |
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StoreThomas
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2011, 08:12:45 AM » |
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Here is the Jackie Brown/Fonda comparison (I have the very rare DS version of it). The reprint is very difficult to distinguish but the Miramax logo gives it away.   Hi. Sorry but I can't see any difference in the Miramax logo in the top picture. ? I bought a SS JB-Fonda poster from a legit source a few months ago, but seeing this post have made me contact him and ask him where he got it from. He tells me that it is from a collection he bought a while back and he has offerede me my money back, but before I get my money back I really need to be sure. Can you please take a look at this poster http://www.movieposter.dk/Gallery/images/fullsize/JackieBrownAdvanceBridget.jpg.JPG Is that a reproduction? Thanks Thomas |
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paul waines
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2011, 09:22:38 AM » |
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Going by Mel's findings it's a repro. I'm sure Mel will shed more light on it.
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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 10:05:33 AM » |
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I bought my SS Jackie Brown/Fonda poster from a poster shop in Denver that almost exclusively sold reprints. I also bought several other reprints from that store (including the Almost Famous and Lebowski shown above), so I'm pretty sure my SS Jackie Brown was a reprint. (I've now trashed almost all my reprints to save space in my poster cabinet.) However, I've double-checked my collection and I have a DS "money bag" Jackie Brown poster that also has a faded Miramax logo, so it's possible that original SS Jackie Brown Fondas also have "faded" logos as well. Here is a large pic of the logo on my "money bag" poster:  |
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stewart boyle
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2011, 01:04:31 PM » |
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I see your confusion too Thomas...
Mel,the first image you have which is tagged original,has the Miramax logo with the offset text below reading, copyright 1997 Miramax film corp.
But in the second set of images you posted...the poster tagged repro has the same offset Miramax film corp text.
Maybe just your image files got messed up bud..?
Stew
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paul waines
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 01:35:27 PM » |
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That's what I was looking at, the different printing under the miramax logo.
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Dread_Pirate_Mel
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2011, 02:05:25 PM » |
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The images in reply #1 are from the Jackie Browns and are correctly labeled, the image in reply #19 is from a DS Jackie Brown "Money Bag" poster.
One of these days I'll take some pics of all my posters with Miramax logos.
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StoreThomas
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2011, 02:17:38 PM » |
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Sounds good as I wanna burn my repros too  And perhaps get my money back |
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