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Offline stewart boyle

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Rip Repair
« on: August 05, 2010, 06:02:10 AM »
Could someone please give me a rough idea how much it would cost to have a 3 inch tear repaired ??
The poster itself is not particularly valuable,but it may be worth the repair if the price is not too much.

Thanks

Stew



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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 07:52:51 AM »
is there any paper loss? can you put it together and it looks fine?

if i was you for a cheapish poster, i would get some archival tape and mend from the rear of the poster. you should be able to make it almost invisible. If you want to touch in the tear then you might want to get it to a professional

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 08:26:48 AM »
If you want to touch in the tear then you might want to get it to a professional

I touch up tears/ cracked folds with quality watercolor pencils (ask at local art supplies store). Because they are watercolor, they can wash off with a damp cloth, so it is reversible. If you are patient, the pencils work magic. It is easy, dont worry. I suggest attaching poster to wall when doing the work. Most of mine are on linen so I easily pin em to the wall.   

Speaking of repairs, has anyone heard from Dario, has he dissapeared?

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 09:26:21 AM »
Dario did a great job last month for me -- he removed tape residue from a star wars quad, mended some small tears and touched up

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 02:07:58 PM »
Agree Dario does great work, but i havent seen him on the forum for a while...


also water colour pencils are great for colouring in a simple crack tear mark, for more details stuff, take it to the experts

these people do good materials for basic repairs, not cheep though
http://www.preservationequipment.com/

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 02:08:03 PM »
is there any paper loss? can you put it together and it looks fine?

if i was you for a cheapish poster, i would get some archival tape and mend from the rear of the poster. you should be able to make it almost invisible. If you want to touch in the tear then you might want to get it to a professional

paul

Good advice there...
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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 03:57:52 PM »
Thanks again everyone, there is no paper loss so i think the archival tape idea,will be a great solution.
Would i be able to buy the tape from an art supplies store?

Stew


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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 04:38:52 PM »
I touch up tears/ cracked folds with quality watercolor pencils (ask at local art supplies store).

Thanks for that tip Steve - I'll have to get some of those and try them out.

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 04:55:02 PM »
Thanks again everyone, there is no paper loss so i think the archival tape idea,will be a great solution.
Would i be able to buy the tape from an art supplies store?

Stew



Stew what you need to find is Filmoplast P90 archival tape.  I could not find it in Canada so I bought some off eBay...check there and maybe have it delivered to your door!  ;)
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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 05:43:51 PM »
Stew what you need to find is Filmoplast P90 archival tape.  I could not find it in Canada so I bought some off eBay...check there and maybe have it delivered to your door!  ;)

Excellent Chris Thankyou

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 03:10:23 AM »
I'll second the watercolour pencil tip (reversible of course).  Here's my efforts on a Point Blank one sheet - I purchased the poster ready backed but with no restoration and some quite obvious fold wear in the coloured areas.  I couldn't justify the costs to post and pay for minor touch ups, so I made myself a cup of tea and set to work experimenting:

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2010, 09:45:51 AM »
Marklawd has kindly loaned me the use of his Archival tape.

I might post pictures of my step by step attempt of repairing my poster so you guys can have a giggle.  ;)

Thanks again Mark

Stew

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2010, 11:50:35 AM »
Marklawd has kindly loaned me the use of his Archival tape.

I might post pictures of my step by step attempt of repairing my poster so you guys can have a giggle.  ;)


Im actually interested to see that as I have a few poster tears of my own Id like to work on. Ive been chickening out up til now.

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 02:55:48 PM »
One word of caution re: archival tape - From what I have been told by restorers, it is probably NOT a good idea to add the archival tape to a poster if you ever think you will have the poster linenbacked. 

Personally, I only use it on posters I know will never be backed. 
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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 03:01:22 PM »
The tape should be removed if you are linen-backing the poster.

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2010, 11:23:14 AM »
One word of caution re: archival tape - From what I have been told by restorers, it is probably NOT a good idea to add the archival tape to a poster if you ever think you will have the poster linenbacked. 

Personally, I only use it on posters I know will never be backed. 

Thanks for that tip. Just removed two posters from the to be taped list  :)

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 04:05:24 PM »
Tonight i attempted the repair to the poster that had been damaged.
 So Step 1 is to assess the direction of the tear.. in this case the tear is in two directions. From the poster edge the tear seems to be right hand down first and then switches half way along to right hand up.


Reverse side



Step 2 I brushed down along the tear with a soft bristled make up brush to smooth out the paper.





Step 3 pre cut the archival tape to roughly the correct length in two parts as the tear is in an arc.



Step 4 Apply tape in two stages to cover the tear  on the back side.





Step 5 Turn poster back over and lighly apply black wax crayon to printed side.



Step 6 Lightly brush pencil edge to smooth in the color.



Finished 1st attempt of repair





Any tips from you guys would greatly appreciated,and Brude dont worry..the quad you expressed an interest in is safely tubed and awaiting your pocket money to improve. This one is the spare i had.

Stew


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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2010, 04:29:40 PM »
Nice tape job, except the wax crayon doesn't look black enough.  I have heard that grease pencils (?) are very good at this sort of touch-up.  Only problem here is the wax layer that you have already applied might prevent grease from adhering?

Nice pics, Stew!

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2010, 04:32:38 PM »
Thanks Brude,i agree the wax crayon/ actually my wifes eyeliner, wasnt the best choice although i think it should be easily removed when i can buy a darker pencil,,the camera flash doesn`t help either..
But other than that i give it a 4/10..

Stew

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2010, 06:52:48 PM »
It's going to be very difficult to "hide" the tear (short of airbrushing possibly) on the front of a glossy poster such as that.

Bottom line - glossy, modern posters are a bitch to repair.

But it is still beneficial that you used the archival tape to add structural stability and cease any further tearing...
 
Chris

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2010, 03:49:22 AM »
I had to touch up a glossy black poster when my Goodfellas one sheet had a succession of those irritating little dints running up one side.  I actually found it was the easiest to do in terms of colour match, as long as your black is dark enough.  I found the best result came from sharpening a watercolour pencil up so that end was relatively fine and the colouring only went on the area of colourloss and didn't encroach into the surrounding areas.

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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2015, 01:54:28 PM »
One word of caution re: archival tape - From what I have been told by restorers, it is probably NOT a good idea to add the archival tape to a poster if you ever think you will have the poster linenbacked.  

Personally, I only use it on posters I know will never be backed.  

And it seems that the Filmoplast P-90 is water soluble, so were a poster ever to be backed later on, removal of the tape would be quite easy. And the P-90 (vs the Filmoplast P) is described as a "long fibered" tape, which would give additional strength.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2015, 01:55:22 PM by erik1925 »


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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2015, 02:08:37 PM »
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Re: Rip Repair
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2015, 02:11:46 PM »
Lineco is another brand I came across, but the one I looked at requires mineral spirits to dissolve the adhesive, should the tape need to be removed. Mineral spirits and vintage paper, that might be more delicate, doesn't sound like the best mix, imho.


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