Carson is a Thief

[MoviePosterBid.com]

(I've had my issues with him in the past, but thank God nothing like this), he lied about everything.  His age, his name, and so on...

gee Thierry.. were the two of you dating??

 

[Harry Caul]

And more importantly, I'm surprised everybody is rushing to judgment after only hearing one side of the story.  As much I admire Holiday, things are rarely black and white

I've gone through a spat with Carson as well (back in my early days on MPF), but he apologized via private message. Since then with all my interactions I've been under the impression that he is more or less a stand-up guy... abrasive yes, but solid nonetheless. 

This definitely changes things.  Even without hearing the other side of the story... assuming Holiday is not lying (which I'm not assuming BTW), Carson stole money.  I can't imagine any scenario where that would be justified.  Yes, I know you are a lawyer and everyone is innocent until proven guilty... but he would still be arrested for what he did, whether there was a dispute or not.

Feel free to defend him at trial

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

A few months ago, I paid Carson for $730 worth of Japanese posters.  Among them were two B1's for Alice in Wonderland.  Everything was good until he told me that the other 4 in the set were available.  He wanted another $1350 for the other four, and while at first I told him I would take them because they are so rare, I thought better of it and told him just a few days later that I couldn't take them.  Needless to say, he was not happy, claiming that I had put him out, even though he had not even received the posters yet from Japan, I believe.

Holiday, I'm not 100% following here.  Is Carson claiming that he ONLY ordered the additional AIW posters from Japan after you agreed to buy them and then he was "put out" because he was stuck with the order after you changed your mind?  Or had he already ordered them for himself or other potential customers before you expressed interest?

[MoviePosterBid.com]

it reqads to me as if Carson had already gotten them. Now it's possible that he didn't say "I have to buy them for you" and was acting as if he already owned what he did not, but Holiday wouldn't know if that's true or not.

that said, what could be Carson's excuse for substituting posters after purchase?

In any case, NONE of it is excusable business practice for any professional.

[holiday]

Hi all,

I've gone through all the responses and I appreciate the attention and the good thoughts from all.   Here's some more feedback.

Here's the last email I sent him (carson.cochren@gmail.com), with all the information I have so far:

Hi Carson,

Or should I call, you Roger Corey Cockreham, 35 years of age (not 30).

The more you ignore me, the more I get annoyed.  So, I'm going to turn up the heat a bit.

I've shipped to your 2033 Lambert Court address in Plano, Texas 75075.  A reverse lookup of that address gives a bunch of neat, useful information.

For instance, Janice T. Cockreham lives there, or runs a business there called J.C. Interiors, Etc.  She's 67 years old.  It also shows that she goes by other aliases such as Janice P. Cockreham, Jane, Jan T, Janice T, Jan Ockerham, and Janice Okerham.  She's affiliated with McKinney Texas as well.  There Gilbert Cockreham too (presumably the G. Cockreham to whom you had me address packages). He's 69.  Roger Corey Cockreham (likely you) is the youngest of the bunch at 35.  There's also Gilbert Carter Cockreham 38 years old, and a few others in the Cockreham clan.

Jan's phone number is 972-596-1573.

Here's the point you little fucker, shitface, cocksucker, ripoff artist.  I know I'm not the only one you've fucked.  But, I'm the one with the big balls and the license to practice law, and the skills to ferret you out like the weasel you are.

Send my posters or refund my money, but do it now.  If I don't have the posters in hand by Thursday, July 21, 2010, or a refund to my paypal account by that time, I will stop my effort to do the right thing, and I will make your life more miserable than it already is.

Holiday

The next previous email I sent him is this:

Carson,

It's not worth the drama this situation is causing me.  I accept what you propose in your email.  Even if you ended up sending the alice posters, every time I'd look at the damned things they'd be tainted with bad emotions.  Years ago I had a situation where I sold a b2 for amelie to a guy on ebay that caused so many problems that when the poster was finally returned to me, I ended up giving it away to a friend to avoid the bad blood.  Life's too short, and there's not a moment to spare on those kind of feelings.

Send along the 4 that you listed and let's call it a day.  I apologize for the harshness of my last emails to you, especially the second one.  I was fuming and my anger got the better of me.

Holiday

Here's the tree from the previous emails:

That's not what was paid for, Carson.  I paid you $195 each for the two Alice b1's, and those are the ones that should be shipped.  If you will not follow through with those, then I will return the broken embraces and girl who traveled through time to you and ask that you refund on the two Alice posters.

Let me know what your choice is.

Holiday

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Carson Cochren <carson.cochren@gmail.com> wrote:

Expect delivery early next week. I included the Broken Embraces B1 and The Girl Who Traveled Through Time (Anime) B1s in place of the Alice B1s. So in total: Broken Embraces B1, Anime B1, Young Victoria B1 and the September Issue B1. Should arrive Mon. or Tues.

Thanks,

Carson

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Holiday Russell <hollyruss@mac.com> wrote:
Thanks.

Hope all is well.

H

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Carson Cochren <carson.cochren@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Holiday,

Your order will be shipping tomorrow around 6pm. I'll leave the tracking/delivery confirmation number in email tomorrow evening.

Carson


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Holiday Russell <hollyruss@mac.com> wrote:
Hi Carson,

Checking on the status of this, please.

Let  me know when you have a moment.

Thanks.

Holiday


On May 19, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Carson Cochren wrote:

Holiday,

Received your tube yesterday around noon.

Now that my order is complete let's get you updated and underway.

Your last order is paid in full (total poster amount paid: 738.00) as below.


Sent (you have these)
-----------
New York I love You B1: 75
White Countess B1:  75
Dreamers Video B2:  38


Remaining (already paid and prep'd for ship)
-----------
September Issue B1: 75
Young Victoria B1: 85
Alice Wonderland Alice B1: 195
Alice Wonderlad Red Queen B1: 195

total paid: 738.00

Update: Alice Wonderland B1s have arrived and, wow, better than expected on thicker paper than anticipated. Best Character set ever in my honest opinion. As promised, you have first notice if you'd like the Burton set. The Alice and Red Queen are already paid in full. The remaining balance for the Alice in Wonderland 6 B1 set is $1450 if you'd like them (Hatter, Alice, Red Queen, White Queen, Tweedle Dee & Tweddle Dumb, Rabbit). That's the only price I will offer anyone for these as always non negotiable. As for some provenance this Alice B1 set was won poster by poster, individually, knowing it was a once time shot. I paid accordingly with some individual posters going over 30000yen ($300+). My hunch was correct; no one has seen another set since; I don't believe this degree of completion will ever be repeated. Not by Steve or other. I can allow two months on the Alice set of 6 B1 if you'd like some space to better make payment arrangements on these. Just let me know. All other individual posters will require usual payment (week or so) payment as usual. Thanks and talk soon.

Regards,

Carson

And there was one follow up from the end of the previous tree:

And, don't fuck me on this, Carson.  It's one thing for me to pull out on an order I placed, but it's a completely different, dishonest and unacceptable thing for you to switch up and order that had been paid for to suit your whim, without asking me first.  Either ship what was agreed, or refund what was paid.  If you don't and you ignore me, I'll run you out of the community.

Sent from my iPhone

I usually don't send private emails, but given the confusion of some out there (Mel), it warranted this posting.  I NEVER received any response from Carson on any of this.

I've unbanned Carson.  I think he's a fucking coward and he won't show his face here.  But, just in case I'm wrong, and just in case he wants to let us know "his side of the story", he can do so.

As far as me backing out of the order, you can see that Carson had already ordered the posters, or at least told me he had, and was offering them to me.  Supposedly, he compiled the whole set on Yahoo Japan.  So, it's not like he special ordered things for me, and then I pulled out and left him in the lurch.  He would have had them anyway.

I hope this helps clarify things.  But, I'm not chasing him any longer other than to put up this information for all to see.  He's a liar all around.  He's lied about his age, his name, his location, and his deals.  He's taken posters sold to others and offered them to third parties just to get a higher price.  In once instance, I had purchased a set of Japanese B0's for Kill Bill -- yes, B0's -- and I had paid him (choke) $4,000 for that set.  I love Kill Bill and Japanese posters.  Color me crazy, but it was worth it to me then when I had the money.  I had paid him up front.  And after he hadn't shipped for a few weeks, he told me that I was impatient and that he was simply sending the posters out to get photographed by someone for a book (sounds like Steve Zammer).  Rather than ship, he made the decision to return the money to me, never consulting me about it.  I have no doubt, in hindsight, that he sold them to someone else for a higher price.

So, here's to Carson - may he die of cancer of the cock.

And, I owe Andy Neal and apology.  He saw Carson for the dickhead that he is well before I did.  I'm embarrassed that I ever took Carson's side in anything.

[CSM]

All very interesting...

Hopefully now that Carson (or whatever we are going to call him) is unbanned, he will have big enough balls to post his side of the story.

[oldposterho]

That is a nasty and dispicable situation.

Still, I gotta get all Miss Manners and at least make an observation that, even in the most dispicable circumstances (such as this), I think it's a questionable call outing addresses and phone numbers of folks that might not be involved.

Just a thought.

--Peter

[Zorba]

All very interesting...

Hopefully now that Carson (or whatever we are going to call him) is unbanned, he will have big enough balls to post his side of the story.

Yeah it is interesting...and interesting to see what he can possibly say to defend that?

Holiday I feel your pain. I cant go into any details and it has NOTHING to do with posters but I have been in a simular place. The words piece of shit come to mind.

I know you arent trying to entertain us but you did make me lmao with "die of cancer of the cock" or something like that line.

This stuff gives chills.

[fallenangel1]

That is a nasty and dispicable situation.

Still, I gotta get all Miss Manners and at least make an observation that, even in the most dispicable circumstances (such as this), I think it's a questionable call outing addresses and phone numbers of folks that might not be involved.

Just a thought.

--Peter

I dont understand people that think like this .. Like our info isnt out there already? I mean even before the internet if you had a phone your name and address was published in a huge book that was delivered to everyones house and all they had to do was know your last name  .. The only viable reason I see for someone to hide their name, address or phone number is if they are a crook and dont want anyone knowing their true identities ..

[eatbrie]

I dont understand people that think like this .. Like our info isnt out there already?

Like this?

[archie leach]

And, I owe Andy Neal and apology.

Let's not get carried away here...

[archie leach]

That is a nasty and dispicable situation.

Still, I gotta get all Miss Manners and at least make an observation that, even in the most dispicable circumstances (such as this), I think it's a questionable call outing addresses and phone numbers of folks that might not be involved.

Just a thought.

--Peter

I agree on both counts.

[eatbrie]

In all fairness, a 3 minutes search on the internet will give you the same results.  Everything is public, now.  Today, I got a mortgage broker's advertisement and the amount of my mortgage was printed on the envelop for everyone to see.  If Corey had not lied the way he did, there wouldn't be the need for such a backlash of information.

[oldposterho]

Of course it can be done, my question is should it. 

I'll admit to a flyover myself, and I have no objection to naming "Carson," it was calling out the rest of the family that caused my sphincter to clench.  Just seems extreme, but I understand completely, and would be hard pressed to not be calling up old favors owed were I in Holiday's unenviable position. 

We've all been there, welcome to the club.

--Peter

[brude]

I saw Carson on TV...

[MoviePosterBid.com]

I find it interesting that his mother has so many "aliases"

[Louie D.]

I find it interesting that his mother has so many "aliases"

Holiday, sorry you got screwed, but this is the same douche that banned me from the board because he didn't like my offer for his Japanese posters.  F%*k him and just realize that someday, somewhere you will cross paths........that's when shit happens.

[supraman079]

I hope this helps clarify things.  But, I'm not chasing him any longer other than to put up this information for all to see.  He's a liar all around.  He's lied about his age, his name, his location, and his deals.  He's taken posters sold to others and offered them to third parties just to get a higher price.  In once instance, I had purchased a set of Japanese B0's for Kill Bill -- yes, B0's -- and I had paid him (choke) $4,000 for that set.  I love Kill Bill and Japanese posters.  Color me crazy, but it was worth it to me then when I had the money.  I had paid him up front.  And after he hadn't shipped for a few weeks, he told me that I was impatient and that he was simply sending the posters out to get photographed by someone for a book (sounds like Steve Zammer).  Rather than ship, he made the decision to return the money to me, never consulting me about it.  I have no doubt, in hindsight, that he sold them to someone else for a higher price.

8k was the asking price at one time. Not sure if this was after you had already paid for them or not.

[50s]

We've all been there, welcome to the club.

Sorry to hear this Holiday. Maybe do what I did, start a webpage for all the shitty dealer experiences you have. It soothes the mind if nothing else.

[Dread_Pirate_Mel]

I agree on both counts.

For once I agree with Archie - and Peter as well. Holiday should NOT have identified Carson/Roger's real name, address, age, phone number, and especially his family members without his consent.  That's a serious and unprecedented breach of forum protocol.  That info should be deleted BEFORE Carson retaliates and posts Holiday's personal info here or elsewhere.  

Also, IF Holiday did reach a clear and final agreement with Carson to buy the additional AIW posters for $1350/$1450 and then backed out of it due to buyer's remorse, the legal situation is not "black and white." If so, both parties violated their contractual obligations - Holiday by reneging on the second contract and Carson by changing the terms of the first contract.

Also, IF it's true that Carson blatantly broke deals in the past, why continue to do business with him?  

But let me be clear: IMHO Carson is primarily at fault here.  He should not have ceased communications with Holiday and retained his money.  Normally these things can be worked out.  

[fallenangel1]

I still think everyone is over-reacting to the use of peoples real names .. Its this mindset of early internet era, where everyone was warned that with just a name people can steal your identity and ruin your credit .. Well guess what .. If the wrong McDonalds worker scans your credit card you could have your identity stolen .. Heck, just by using someones name I can jump on white pages and possibly get their whole families names as well as previous and/or current addresses. and with that info and a google search you can pull up everything else about a person. Not to mention if you have access to databases for utilities and all that .. You know just by knowing an address someone can call the utility companies and find out how much your bills are??

So lets back off of this situation here for a second.. and explain exactly why everyone feels that names shouldn't be used?

[oldposterho]

explain exactly why everyone feels that names shouldn't be used?

Let me be clear, I'm not trying to make a "thing" about this, it was just an observation, however, since asked, here's why:

Unless, "Carson"'s mom is a Ma Barker ringleader of a bait and switch poster selling ring, just what has she done to Holiday?  What did the brothers and sisters do?  Did the mother user her phone to harrass him?  Not that I can see.  Of course all this info is "available," so why the need to publish it?  Just like there are crooks on the intertubes, there are also obsessive psychotic fuckwits who think it's "funny" to harrass strangers from the safety of their mother's basement - and when the strangers [seem to] have nothing to do with the original crime, what's the point?

It simply struck me as a cheap shot, when there is more than enough reason for legitimate punches above the belt.  Just because we can conduct scorched earth campaigns, doesn't mean we should.  That's all.

--Peter

[eatbrie]

I'll tell you about cheap shot. 

On another forum I shall not name, Corey tried to sell his Dark Knight B1 posters by pinning one forum member against another and raising the price.  I called him on it, told him that he should sell his posters on Ebay and not use the forum and his so-called friends to make a profit.  He didn't like it and it started a feud on that forum.  From then on, he decided to use any weapon he could find against me and became extremely personal.  I don't know if someone told him or if he researched it himself, but he posted information about my family and my status.  Now, I don't mind a clean fight, but I do mind personal info being spread on a forum, especially since I had done him no harm (except expose his dirty selling practices).  I complain to the forum owner, who almost banned Corey.  That didn't stop Corey who kept at it every chance he got.  So. in view of what he has done to Holiday AND OTHERS, I really don't mind his personal info being posted.  It's a little taste of his own medicine, IMO.

Now, Mel raised an interesting point: Why keep doing business with him?  Even though I collect Japanese material, I have NEVER directly bought anything from Corey.  I may have indirectly if he sold thru Bruce, but never knowingly.  Holiday told me many times what he was spending on this or that poster and I kept telling him to back off and how ridiculous it was.  He agreed with me, and kept buying.  At that point, he had his pockets full of money and just wanted the damn posters.  Call it an addiction.  I understand it, I have the same one, with less money   But I've always thought that the money Corey was getting out of my friend Holiday was disgusting and I'm glad it has come to a crashing end. 

Another point I want to raise is that the other forum owner mentioned that Corey was an expert at changing aliases and computer addresses.  When he banned Corey from the other forum, he found out that Corey had more than 10 aliases from different states.  So I don't doubt that Corey is still among us, reading this, participating in the discussion under a different name.  He's probably not a newbie either.  He's probably been around for a while.  Come to think of it, it sounds like "The Thing", doesn't it?

Who is Corey?

T

[stewart boyle]

If Carson has re registered  it will be easy to spot because you guys will be hugely familiar with the way he posts.
I think everyone has an easy to spot writing style,phrases,composition etc..

Stew


Ps.. sorry,but," Im Spartacus" just came in to my head...

[easyenders]

He's probably not a newbie either.  He's probably been around for a while.  Come to think of it, it sounds like "The Thing", doesn't it?

Who is Corey?

I would put my money on Holiday who is in the throes of a deep identity crisis   come to think of it Hitchcock couldn't have come up with a series of events like this. At one stage on Holiday's emails post I thought he had identified Carson as a 69 year old mama rearing chickens on some outback ranch whilst conducting an international internet poster scam.